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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8871949" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Okay, I'll leave it like the <strong><a href="https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/8870174" target="_blank">Dragon Warriors Table</a></strong> current Table then since that's the closest I could contrive to the 1E Armour Classes.</p><p></p><p>Incidentally, the ability scores I used in the table are based on the 5E Dragons apart from STR, which I set to 18 for them all since the original text says "They have a strength of 18 (plus 1 to hit, plus 2 on damage)". That means the order of their Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma are a bit different from AD&D dragons. For some reason, in 5E the Copper and Green Dragons are the smartest breeds, up to INT 20 for an Ancient, while Reds and Gold Ancients are INT 18. I could tweak the INT around to follow AD&D ranking, which'd be something like:</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 18px">Dragon Warriors Mental Scores</span></strong></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><th><p style="text-align: left">Type</p> </th><th><p style="text-align: center">INT(5Eish)</p> </th><th><p style="text-align: center">WIS(5Eish)</p> </th><th><p style="text-align: center">INT(AD&Dish)</p> </th><th><p style="text-align: center">WIS(AD&Dish)</p> </th></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left">Black</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">3 (–4)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">13 (+1)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">2 (–5)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">13 (+1)</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left">Blue</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">4 (–3)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">15 (+2)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">4 (–4)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">15 (+2)</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left">Green</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">6 (–2)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">15 (+2)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">3 (–4)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">13 (+1)</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left">Red</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">5 (–3)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">13 (+1)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">6 (–2)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">15 (+2)</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left">White</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">1 (–5)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">12 (+1)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">1 (–5)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">12 (+1)</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left">Brass</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">3 (–4)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">13 (+1)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">5 (–3)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">13 (+1)</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left">Bronze</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">4 (–3)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">15 (+2)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">6 (–2)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">15 (+2)</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left">Copper</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">6 (–2)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">15 (+2)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">5 (–3)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">13 (+1)</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left">Gold</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">5 (–3)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">15 (+2)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">7 (–2)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">15 (+2)</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: left">Silver</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">4 (–3)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">13 (+1)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">6 (–2)</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: center">15 (+2)</p> </td></tr></table><p></p><p>Which do you prefer?</p><p></p><p>It makes some difference to the Dragon Warriors' game performance, especially the ordering of the Wisdom, as a lot of saving throws are WIS based.</p><p></p><p>I'm planning to give it the Parry Reaction, as it seems suitably warrior-like:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="font-size: 22px">Reactions</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em><strong>Parry.</strong></em> The dragon warrior adds its proficiency bonus to its AC against one melee attack that would hit it. To do so, the dragon warrior must see the attacker and be wielding a melee weapon.</p><p></p><p>…and I think that'd do as far as their game mechanics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8871949, member: 57383"] Okay, I'll leave it like the [B][URL='https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/8870174']Dragon Warriors Table[/URL][/B] current Table then since that's the closest I could contrive to the 1E Armour Classes. Incidentally, the ability scores I used in the table are based on the 5E Dragons apart from STR, which I set to 18 for them all since the original text says "They have a strength of 18 (plus 1 to hit, plus 2 on damage)". That means the order of their Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma are a bit different from AD&D dragons. For some reason, in 5E the Copper and Green Dragons are the smartest breeds, up to INT 20 for an Ancient, while Reds and Gold Ancients are INT 18. I could tweak the INT around to follow AD&D ranking, which'd be something like: [B][SIZE=5]Dragon Warriors Mental Scores[/SIZE][/B] [TABLE] [TR] [TH][LEFT]Type[/LEFT][/TH] [TH][CENTER]INT(5Eish)[/CENTER][/TH] [TH][CENTER]WIS(5Eish)[/CENTER][/TH] [TH][CENTER]INT(AD&Dish)[/CENTER][/TH] [TH][CENTER]WIS(AD&Dish)[/CENTER][/TH] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT]Black[/LEFT][/TD] [TD][CENTER]3 (–4)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]13 (+1)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]2 (–5)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]13 (+1)[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT]Blue[/LEFT][/TD] [TD][CENTER]4 (–3)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]15 (+2)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]4 (–4)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]15 (+2)[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT]Green[/LEFT][/TD] [TD][CENTER]6 (–2)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]15 (+2)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]3 (–4)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]13 (+1)[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT]Red[/LEFT][/TD] [TD][CENTER]5 (–3)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]13 (+1)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]6 (–2)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]15 (+2)[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT]White[/LEFT][/TD] [TD][CENTER]1 (–5)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]12 (+1)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]1 (–5)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]12 (+1)[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT]Brass[/LEFT][/TD] [TD][CENTER]3 (–4)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]13 (+1)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]5 (–3)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]13 (+1)[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT]Bronze[/LEFT][/TD] [TD][CENTER]4 (–3)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]15 (+2)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]6 (–2)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]15 (+2)[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT]Copper[/LEFT][/TD] [TD][CENTER]6 (–2)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]15 (+2)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]5 (–3)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]13 (+1)[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT]Gold[/LEFT][/TD] [TD][CENTER]5 (–3)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]15 (+2)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]7 (–2)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]15 (+2)[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][LEFT]Silver[/LEFT][/TD] [TD][CENTER]4 (–3)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]13 (+1)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]6 (–2)[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][CENTER]15 (+2)[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Which do you prefer? It makes some difference to the Dragon Warriors' game performance, especially the ordering of the Wisdom, as a lot of saving throws are WIS based. I'm planning to give it the Parry Reaction, as it seems suitably warrior-like: [INDENT][SIZE=6]Reactions[/SIZE][/INDENT] [INDENT][/INDENT] [INDENT][I][B]Parry.[/B][/I] The dragon warrior adds its proficiency bonus to its AC against one melee attack that would hit it. To do so, the dragon warrior must see the attacker and be wielding a melee weapon.[/INDENT] …and I think that'd do as far as their game mechanics. [/QUOTE]
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