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5E: Converting Monsters from White Dwarf Magazine for Fifth Edition
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<blockquote data-quote="ilgatto" data-source="post: 8891370" data-attributes="member: 86051"><p>So since I've no got a proper avatar (Must... score... trophy... points...) I might as try throwing some thoughts on stats at you. I've tried to put the hypnoclopses between the ogre and the hill giant.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">Hit Points</span></strong><span style="font-size: 22px"> 44+24 (coz CON <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">17</span>) (8d10 + 24 [coz CON<span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"> 17</span>])</span></p><p>Reasoning: 8 HD puts the hypnoclops between the ogre and the hill giant (7, 10). It's 8 because they are Large and not Huge and from the original 6 to 8 because 2E bumped up the giants.</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">(original = 6d8; centaur 6d10 + 12 (Large + STR 18 (+2)); merrow 6d10 + 12; <u><strong>ogre 7d10 + 21 (MM1 = 4+1)</strong></u>; <u>owlbear 7d10 + 21</u>; <u>troll 8d10 + 40</u> (Large + STR 18 (+4)); <u>minotaur 9d10 + 27</u> (Large + STR 16 (+3)); <u><strong>hill giant 12d12 + 60 (MM1 8+1)</strong></u>; <u>fomorian 13d12 + 65</u>; half-ogre 4d10 (cross ogre, orc, human, hobgoblin, bugbear; large giant))</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">Speed</span></strong><span style="font-size: 22px"> 40</span></p><p>Reasoning: Hill giant 40; ogre 40</p><p>But: Maybe Speed 30 because they only have one eye?</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">(half-ogre (8') 30; fomorian 30)</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">STR </span></strong><span style="font-size: 22px">20 (+5)</span></p><p>Reasoning: Because stronger than an ogre (19) and weaker than a hill giant (21).</p><p>But: Maybe too strong for Large?</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">(STR (physical power) fomorian 23; half-ogre 17’ minotaur 18)</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">DEX </span></strong><span style="font-size: 22px"><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">7?</span> (-2)</span></p><p>Reasoning: Because one eye and therefore less than an ogre (8) and a hill giant (8).</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">(fomorian 10; bugbear 14; half-ogre 10; minotaur 11)</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">CON </span></strong><span style="font-size: 22px"><span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">17?</span> (+3)</span></p><p>Reasoning: Between 17-19 coz more than ogre (16) and less than hill giant (21) and closer to ogre because Large and not Huge.</p><p>But: 17 means the same modifier as an ogre. 18 would be in the middle ogre-hill giant and then +4 instead of +3, but why?; 19 seems to much?</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">(CON (endurance) and fomorian (20); half-ogre 14; minotaur 16)</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 22px"><strong>INT</strong> <span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">9-10?</span></span></p><p>Reasoning: They should be fairly intelligent coz they lead goblins etc., but not too smart because brutes?</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">(INT (reasoning, memory) 5+ more than ogre, hill giant (5) (←known to be stupid); fomorian 9; half-ogre 7; minotaur 6)</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 22px"><strong>WIS</strong> <span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">9?</span> (-1)</span></p><p>Reasoning: 9 coz like hill giant (9) and ogre (7) but should be “low” coz one eye and careless/reckless coz brutal and makes it easier for villagers to hide so not all of them are slaughtered on a raid, which would quickly reduce the population of an average county?</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">(WIS (insight, perception) fomorian 14; half-ogre 7; minotaur 16)</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">CHA</span></strong><span style="font-size: 22px"> <span style="color: rgb(226, 80, 65)">5?</span> (-3)</span></p><p>Reasoning: Max 5 coz worse than hill giant (6) ogre (7) for brutality and violating women? Maybe even less because of this reputation?</p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">(CHA (force of personality) fomorian 6; half-ogre 10; minotaur 9)</span></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">Senses</span></strong><span style="font-size: 22px"> darkvision 90 ft.</span></p><p>Reasoning: Because caves and underground and <em><strong><u>literally all 5E monsters</u></strong></em> have darkvision (sort of).</p><p>But: I'm not really in favor of this because caves have openings to the outside and they can light fires and use torches at night and underground and because Greek cyclopes not especially known to see in the dark?</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">Languages</span></strong><span style="font-size: 22px"> Cyclops, Goblin, Gnoll, Orc</span></p><p>(Edit) Reasoning: No Svart coz there's no 5E version of them?</p><p></p><p>P.S.: WTL is it with me not having bright reds and blues in my color palette?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ilgatto, post: 8891370, member: 86051"] So since I've no got a proper avatar (Must... score... trophy... points...) I might as try throwing some thoughts on stats at you. I've tried to put the hypnoclopses between the ogre and the hill giant. [B][SIZE=6]Hit Points[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=6] 44+24 (coz CON [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]17[/COLOR]) (8d10 + 24 [coz CON[COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)] 17[/COLOR]])[/SIZE] Reasoning: 8 HD puts the hypnoclops between the ogre and the hill giant (7, 10). It's 8 because they are Large and not Huge and from the original 6 to 8 because 2E bumped up the giants. [SIZE=3](original = 6d8; centaur 6d10 + 12 (Large + STR 18 (+2)); merrow 6d10 + 12; [U][B]ogre 7d10 + 21 (MM1 = 4+1)[/B][/U]; [U]owlbear 7d10 + 21[/U]; [U]troll 8d10 + 40[/U] (Large + STR 18 (+4)); [U]minotaur 9d10 + 27[/U] (Large + STR 16 (+3)); [U][B]hill giant 12d12 + 60 (MM1 8+1)[/B][/U]; [U]fomorian 13d12 + 65[/U]; half-ogre 4d10 (cross ogre, orc, human, hobgoblin, bugbear; large giant))[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=6]Speed[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=6] 40[/SIZE] Reasoning: Hill giant 40; ogre 40 But: Maybe Speed 30 because they only have one eye? [SIZE=3](half-ogre (8') 30; fomorian 30)[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=6]STR [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=6]20 (+5)[/SIZE] Reasoning: Because stronger than an ogre (19) and weaker than a hill giant (21). But: Maybe too strong for Large? [SIZE=3](STR (physical power) fomorian 23; half-ogre 17’ minotaur 18)[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=6]DEX [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=6][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]7?[/COLOR] (-2)[/SIZE] Reasoning: Because one eye and therefore less than an ogre (8) and a hill giant (8). [SIZE=3](fomorian 10; bugbear 14; half-ogre 10; minotaur 11)[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=6]CON [/SIZE][/B][SIZE=6][COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]17?[/COLOR] (+3)[/SIZE] Reasoning: Between 17-19 coz more than ogre (16) and less than hill giant (21) and closer to ogre because Large and not Huge. But: 17 means the same modifier as an ogre. 18 would be in the middle ogre-hill giant and then +4 instead of +3, but why?; 19 seems to much? [SIZE=3](CON (endurance) and fomorian (20); half-ogre 14; minotaur 16)[/SIZE] [SIZE=6][B]INT[/B] [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]9-10?[/COLOR][/SIZE] Reasoning: They should be fairly intelligent coz they lead goblins etc., but not too smart because brutes? [SIZE=3](INT (reasoning, memory) 5+ more than ogre, hill giant (5) (←known to be stupid); fomorian 9; half-ogre 7; minotaur 6)[/SIZE] [SIZE=6][B]WIS[/B] [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]9?[/COLOR] (-1)[/SIZE] Reasoning: 9 coz like hill giant (9) and ogre (7) but should be “low” coz one eye and careless/reckless coz brutal and makes it easier for villagers to hide so not all of them are slaughtered on a raid, which would quickly reduce the population of an average county? [SIZE=3](WIS (insight, perception) fomorian 14; half-ogre 7; minotaur 16)[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=6]CHA[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=6] [COLOR=rgb(226, 80, 65)]5?[/COLOR] (-3)[/SIZE] Reasoning: Max 5 coz worse than hill giant (6) ogre (7) for brutality and violating women? Maybe even less because of this reputation? [SIZE=3](CHA (force of personality) fomorian 6; half-ogre 10; minotaur 9)[/SIZE] [B][SIZE=6]Senses[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=6] darkvision 90 ft.[/SIZE] Reasoning: Because caves and underground and [I][B][U]literally all 5E monsters[/U][/B][/I] have darkvision (sort of). But: I'm not really in favor of this because caves have openings to the outside and they can light fires and use torches at night and underground and because Greek cyclopes not especially known to see in the dark? [B][SIZE=6]Languages[/SIZE][/B][SIZE=6] Cyclops, Goblin, Gnoll, Orc[/SIZE] (Edit) Reasoning: No Svart coz there's no 5E version of them? P.S.: WTL is it with me not having bright reds and blues in my color palette? [/QUOTE]
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