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<blockquote data-quote="ilgatto" data-source="post: 8899955" data-attributes="member: 86051"><p>OK, since the hypnoclops/xyclops/cyclopskin is not gonna follow the way of the 1E giants when they became 2E, there's probably no point in arguing that it must have scores to match.</p><p></p><p>So, rebooting my train of thought.</p><p></p><p>Considering that regular hypnoclopses are weaker than chieftains and the original chieftains have 2E STR 18/51-75, giving the rank-and-file STR 18 would be fine.</p><p></p><p>Also, in this case, making them stronger or weaker than ogres wouldn't really matter, for I only thought of them as being stronger than ogres because of my giant connection. In this light, it probably doesn't matter much if they're gonna get more, less, or the same hit points as an ogre, wherefore CON 16 or CON 17 and giving them Hit Dice in the range of 70 hit points (as suggested by [USER=57383]@Cleon[/USER] upthread because the original has 6d8 HD) would be the way to go.</p><p></p><p><u>Edit</u>: Just checked the blue write-up and scores OK as far as I'm concerned, noting that STR 19 can become STR 18 as preferred by cleon for reasons mentioned above. So what's the consensus on CHA? I suppose CHA 15 as suggested by [USER=6947639]@Casimir Liber[/USER] would worsen he saving throws of creatures faced with the Hypnotic Glare?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ilgatto, post: 8899955, member: 86051"] OK, since the hypnoclops/xyclops/cyclopskin is not gonna follow the way of the 1E giants when they became 2E, there's probably no point in arguing that it must have scores to match. So, rebooting my train of thought. Considering that regular hypnoclopses are weaker than chieftains and the original chieftains have 2E STR 18/51-75, giving the rank-and-file STR 18 would be fine. Also, in this case, making them stronger or weaker than ogres wouldn't really matter, for I only thought of them as being stronger than ogres because of my giant connection. In this light, it probably doesn't matter much if they're gonna get more, less, or the same hit points as an ogre, wherefore CON 16 or CON 17 and giving them Hit Dice in the range of 70 hit points (as suggested by [USER=57383]@Cleon[/USER] upthread because the original has 6d8 HD) would be the way to go. [U]Edit[/U]: Just checked the blue write-up and scores OK as far as I'm concerned, noting that STR 19 can become STR 18 as preferred by cleon for reasons mentioned above. So what's the consensus on CHA? I suppose CHA 15 as suggested by [USER=6947639]@Casimir Liber[/USER] would worsen he saving throws of creatures faced with the Hypnotic Glare? [/QUOTE]
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