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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8909906" data-attributes="member: 57383">There's a typo here.It's &quot;gouge&quot; (scooping/scraping/digging, like with a chisel) not &quot;gauge&quot; (measuring something).Oh, and I wouldn't bring religion into it, the issue is controversial enough! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />I'm surprised by your surprise.There's been a demon called Baphomet in D&amp;D who's been associated with minotaurs since he debuted in the pullout section of S4 The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth (Minotaurs are his worshippers and servants&quot;) in 1982, before his mainstream appearance in the 1983 Monster Manual II (&quot;Baphomet is lord of minotaurs&quot;).D&amp;D Baphomet doesn't resemble the historical (and probably equally made up) Templar allegation version. He just looks like a big Minotaur.Haven't you come across the D&amp;D version before? I guess if you mainly read 2E sources it's not that surprising. I believe his only only official appearance in 2E AD&amp;D was in DMGR4 Monster Mythology (1992), where he's a tanar'ri Lesser God &quot;who has increasingly attracted the worship of minotaurs&quot;.Curiously, DMGR4 takes the trouble to explicate that Baphomet didn't invent minotaurs, but &quot;Myths of the birth of minotaurs are obscure and place their origin in pre-history, where a terrible and ancient curse condemned a number of wicked humans (who may have had dealings with tanar’ri) to this shape. This curse somehow drew Baphomet's attention to the newly-created monsters.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8909906, member: 57383"] There's a typo here. It's "gouge" (scooping/scraping/digging, like with a chisel) not "gauge" (measuring something). Oh, and I wouldn't bring religion into it, the issue is controversial enough! :p I'm surprised by your surprise. There's been a demon called Baphomet in D&D who's been associated with minotaurs since he debuted in the pullout section of S4 [i]The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth[/i] (Minotaurs are his worshippers and servants") in 1982, before his mainstream appearance in the 1983 [i]Monster Manual II[/i] ("Baphomet is lord of minotaurs"). D&D Baphomet doesn't resemble the historical (and probably equally made up) Templar allegation version. He just looks like a big Minotaur. Haven't you come across the D&D version before? I guess if you mainly read 2E sources it's not that surprising. I believe his only only official appearance in 2E AD&D was in DMGR4 [I]Monster Mythology[/I] (1992), where he's a tanar'ri Lesser God "who has increasingly attracted the worship of minotaurs". Curiously, DMGR4 takes the trouble to explicate that Baphomet didn't invent minotaurs, but "Myths of the birth of minotaurs are obscure and place their origin in pre-history, where a terrible and ancient curse condemned a number of wicked humans (who may have had dealings with tanar’ri) to this shape. This curse somehow drew Baphomet's attention to the newly-created monsters." [/QUOTE]

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