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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 9146448" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>I'm toying with the idea of replacing <em><strong>Pounce of the Lion</strong></em> with the following:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em><strong>Leap of the Lion #1.</strong></em> If the griffon rider uses <em>Running Leap</em> while moving straight towards a creature, it can use its bonus action to make a melee weapon attack against that creature. If it hits, that target must succeed on a DC 13 Strength saving throw or be knocked prone.</p><p></p><p>I think that has a number of "improvements":</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Simpler wording</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The "minimum charge distance" is reduced from 20 feet (which was based on a Lion's <em><strong>Pounce</strong></em>) to the 10 feet of a <em><strong>Running Leap</strong></em>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It reliably gives an extra attack with a Bonus Action without requiring the target to be prone.</li> </ul><p>However, I basically just enjoyed the mental image of a Griffon Rider hurling themselves through the air an enemy, plus I like the alliteration of Leap of the Lion. Has a nicer ring to it than Pounce of the Lion.</p><p></p><p>Although I guess there's no reason we can't just use the current text and rename it. I also liked the idea of the Griffon Rider briefly moving at a 50 feet speed, which is as fast as the SRD Lion:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em><strong>Leap of the Lion #2.</strong></em> If the griffon rider moves at least 20 feet straight towards a creature, it can use its bonus action to increase its speed to 50 feet. If it then hits the creature with a melee weapon attack on the same turn, that target must succeed on a DC 13 Strength saving throw or be knocked prone. If the target is prone, the griffon rider can make one additional melee weapon attack against it as a reaction.</p><p></p><p>Or maybe a combination of the two:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em><strong>Leap of the Lion #3.</strong></em> If the griffon rider uses <em>Running Leap</em> while moving straight towards a creature, it can use its bonus action to increase its speed to 50 feet and make a melee weapon attack against that creature. If it hits, that target must succeed on a DC 13 Strength saving throw or be knocked prone.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em><strong>Leap of the Lion #4.</strong></em> If the griffon rider moves at least 10 feet straight towards a creature, it can use its bonus action to make a melee weapon attack against that creature. If it hits, that target must succeed on a DC 13 Strength saving throw or be knocked prone.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em><strong>Leap of the Lion #5. (Pounce of the Panther?)</strong></em> If the griffon rider uses <em>Running Leap</em> to enter melee reach or moves at least 20 feet straight towards a creature, it can use its bonus action to make a melee weapon attack against that creature. If it hits, that target must succeed on a DC 13 Strength saving throw or be knocked prone.</p><p></p><p>Not completely decided on which I prefer but am currently leaning towards either <em><strong>#3</strong></em> or <em><strong>#5</strong></em>.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Briefly wondered about renaming it "Pounce of the Panther" but I'd rather keep the Lion in the bonus action's title, since Griffons are half-eagle and half-lion it seemed appropriate to name the Griffon Rider's main special abilities after those animals.</p><p></p><p>Hmm… although we could maybe make a more powerful/effective version of <em><strong>Leap of the Lion</strong></em> for a higher-ranked Griffon Rider and call that <em><strong>Pounce of the Panther</strong></em>, or possibly the other way around with the Pounce being the weaker version?</p><p></p><p>I am also starting to like the idea of an "Eldritch" version of a Griffon Rider with supernatural and spellcasting abilities, like a combination of an Eldritch Knight and a Warlock. Probably with Eldritch Blast style eye-beams and the ability to summon their griffon mount with the <em><a href="https://www.5esrd.com/database/spell/find-steed" target="_blank">find steed</a></em> spell?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 9146448, member: 57383"] I'm toying with the idea of replacing [i][b]Pounce of the Lion[/b][/i] with the following: [INDENT][I][B]Leap of the Lion #1.[/b][/i] If the griffon rider uses [I]Running Leap[/I] while moving straight towards a creature, it can use its bonus action to make a melee weapon attack against that creature. If it hits, that target must succeed on a DC 13 Strength saving throw or be knocked prone.[/INDENT] I think that has a number of "improvements": [LIST][*]Simpler wording [*]The "minimum charge distance" is reduced from 20 feet (which was based on a Lion's [I][B]Pounce[/b][/i]) to the 10 feet of a [I][B]Running Leap[/b][/i]. [*]It reliably gives an extra attack with a Bonus Action without requiring the target to be prone.[/LIST] However, I basically just enjoyed the mental image of a Griffon Rider hurling themselves through the air an enemy, plus I like the alliteration of Leap of the Lion. Has a nicer ring to it than Pounce of the Lion. Although I guess there's no reason we can't just use the current text and rename it. I also liked the idea of the Griffon Rider briefly moving at a 50 feet speed, which is as fast as the SRD Lion: [INDENT][I][B]Leap of the Lion #2.[/b][/i] If the griffon rider moves at least 20 feet straight towards a creature, it can use its bonus action to increase its speed to 50 feet. If it then hits the creature with a melee weapon attack on the same turn, that target must succeed on a DC 13 Strength saving throw or be knocked prone. If the target is prone, the griffon rider can make one additional melee weapon attack against it as a reaction.[/INDENT] Or maybe a combination of the two: [INDENT][I][B]Leap of the Lion #3.[/b][/i] If the griffon rider uses [I]Running Leap[/I] while moving straight towards a creature, it can use its bonus action to increase its speed to 50 feet and make a melee weapon attack against that creature. If it hits, that target must succeed on a DC 13 Strength saving throw or be knocked prone. [I][B]Leap of the Lion #4.[/b][/i] If the griffon rider moves at least 10 feet straight towards a creature, it can use its bonus action to make a melee weapon attack against that creature. If it hits, that target must succeed on a DC 13 Strength saving throw or be knocked prone. [I][B]Leap of the Lion #5. (Pounce of the Panther?)[/b][/i] If the griffon rider uses [I]Running Leap[/I] to enter melee reach or moves at least 20 feet straight towards a creature, it can use its bonus action to make a melee weapon attack against that creature. If it hits, that target must succeed on a DC 13 Strength saving throw or be knocked prone.[/INDENT] Not completely decided on which I prefer but am currently leaning towards either [i][b]#3[/b][/i] or [i][b]#5[/b][/i]. EDIT: Briefly wondered about renaming it "Pounce of the Panther" but I'd rather keep the Lion in the bonus action's title, since Griffons are half-eagle and half-lion it seemed appropriate to name the Griffon Rider's main special abilities after those animals. Hmm… although we could maybe make a more powerful/effective version of [i][b]Leap of the Lion[/b][/i] for a higher-ranked Griffon Rider and call that [I][B]Pounce of the Panther[/b][/i], or possibly the other way around with the Pounce being the weaker version? I am also starting to like the idea of an "Eldritch" version of a Griffon Rider with supernatural and spellcasting abilities, like a combination of an Eldritch Knight and a Warlock. Probably with Eldritch Blast style eye-beams and the ability to summon their griffon mount with the [i][url='https://www.5esrd.com/database/spell/find-steed']find steed[/url][/i] spell? [/QUOTE]
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