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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 8218780" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Howdy Stalker0! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Its easy to just go with the complexity of epic gaming and add MOAR stuff (as they say). I think maybe its harder to make iconic epic monsters in as few abilities as possible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The best monsters* in the 3E Epic Level Handbook were all simple in concept (if not always execution).</p><p></p><p>*Atropal, Hekatonkeres, Xixecal etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes and no. Dave has designed monsters of at least CR 50 (and possibly beyond). So in terms of 'epic' CR 30 is hardly the Ultimate Boss Monster (although I get the point you are trying to make). But I am not sure it needs to have a lot of tools in the belt. Conceptually it would be better to be great at 2 or 3 things rather than good at everything.</p><p></p><p>If you were designing Thor as an opponent you could hypothetically boil him down to 3 key powers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe the dragon's scales became sentient insect-like minions that can detach or fall off. The Dragon's hide is tougher with the minion's attached (Scalebound Form: Better AC & Damage Reduction) but the 'Living Scales' can attack of their own accord and swarm the PCs and the Scaleless Form could be faster/cast better spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Certainly 5E is much simpler than 3E/Pathfinder.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 8218780, member: 326"] Howdy Stalker0! :) Its easy to just go with the complexity of epic gaming and add MOAR stuff (as they say). I think maybe its harder to make iconic epic monsters in as few abilities as possible. The best monsters* in the 3E Epic Level Handbook were all simple in concept (if not always execution). *Atropal, Hekatonkeres, Xixecal etc. Yes and no. Dave has designed monsters of at least CR 50 (and possibly beyond). So in terms of 'epic' CR 30 is hardly the Ultimate Boss Monster (although I get the point you are trying to make). But I am not sure it needs to have a lot of tools in the belt. Conceptually it would be better to be great at 2 or 3 things rather than good at everything. If you were designing Thor as an opponent you could hypothetically boil him down to 3 key powers. Maybe the dragon's scales became sentient insect-like minions that can detach or fall off. The Dragon's hide is tougher with the minion's attached (Scalebound Form: Better AC & Damage Reduction) but the 'Living Scales' can attack of their own accord and swarm the PCs and the Scaleless Form could be faster/cast better spells. Certainly 5E is much simpler than 3E/Pathfinder. [/QUOTE]
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