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<blockquote data-quote="Banshee16" data-source="post: 5825892" data-attributes="member: 7883">I agree......I liked the detail in the realms.&nbsp; Seems to me like they ruined the setting for 4E, to satisfy those who didn't like it, and STILL didn't manage to bring in new fans.&nbsp; I think they just need to de-emphasize the Chosen and other mega powerful characters.&nbsp; Some of the additions in 3E, like the Shades, were pretty cool.&nbsp; I *did* like the grey box, but I liked the 3E hardcover better.&nbsp; More of the FR treatment was something I was hoping to see for other settings, like Dragonlance, where the utility of the setting for games OTHER than a recreation of the WotL was limited by virtue of most of the books (before 3E days) being too focused on just fleshing out that one aspect of the setting.&nbsp; The 3E books by Sovereign Press were finally &quot;getting&quot; it by offering enough details for a GM to hook into.The grey box approach was nice....but makes a lot more work for DMs.&nbsp; I think some parts of 4E's changes were good though.&nbsp; In 3E, we never saw much of anything in the Moonshaes.....yet they were always one of my favourite areas of the realms.&nbsp; I really liked the idea of the return of a kingdom of Fey casting out the humans in the area.....particularly as I was reading Tad Williams' &quot;Shadowmarch&quot; series at the same time that 4E was coming out, so the idea of darker fey returning to Faerun and making an area inaccessible to mortals was rather neat.3E got things right in terms of making the world more &quot;evil&quot; than it had been in 2nd Ed.&nbsp; It's something WotC got right......the forces of evil were far more competent in the 3E depictions of FR than they were in 2nd Ed.Banshee</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Banshee16, post: 5825892, member: 7883"] I agree......I liked the detail in the realms. Seems to me like they ruined the setting for 4E, to satisfy those who didn't like it, and STILL didn't manage to bring in new fans. I think they just need to de-emphasize the Chosen and other mega powerful characters. Some of the additions in 3E, like the Shades, were pretty cool. I *did* like the grey box, but I liked the 3E hardcover better. More of the FR treatment was something I was hoping to see for other settings, like Dragonlance, where the utility of the setting for games OTHER than a recreation of the WotL was limited by virtue of most of the books (before 3E days) being too focused on just fleshing out that one aspect of the setting. The 3E books by Sovereign Press were finally "getting" it by offering enough details for a GM to hook into. The grey box approach was nice....but makes a lot more work for DMs. I think some parts of 4E's changes were good though. In 3E, we never saw much of anything in the Moonshaes.....yet they were always one of my favourite areas of the realms. I really liked the idea of the return of a kingdom of Fey casting out the humans in the area.....particularly as I was reading Tad Williams' "Shadowmarch" series at the same time that 4E was coming out, so the idea of darker fey returning to Faerun and making an area inaccessible to mortals was rather neat. 3E got things right in terms of making the world more "evil" than it had been in 2nd Ed. It's something WotC got right......the forces of evil were far more competent in the 3E depictions of FR than they were in 2nd Ed. Banshee [/QUOTE]

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