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5e isn't a Golden Age of D&D Lorewise, it's Silver at best.
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<blockquote data-quote="Shardstone" data-source="post: 8705315" data-attributes="member: 6807784"><p>Ya but, so what?</p><p></p><p>People are allowed to complain. Its good that people complain. If we lived in a world where everyone circlejerked on how great WotC's every release was, we'd have a bizarre 1984 society where its either you close your eyes and drink the kool-aid or get ostracized for daring to have an artistic opinion seperate from the company producing the art.</p><p></p><p>The thing is, I mostly agree with [USER=18]@Ruin Explorer[/USER] and <em>I like a lot of WotC's content.</em> I loved Van Richten's, Fizban's, Wild Beyond the Witchlight, Radiant Citadel. But some of these, like Van Richtens, could be better. And saying that this content can be better doesn't mean we have to make up a list of hyperboles, as often happens on this forum, to make those critical of the content look asinine. Instead, you could actually say to yourself "Ya, this is a good product, but what if it did include 20 more pages on XYZ? Then it'd be even better!"</p><p></p><p>This statement doesn't negate that something is good, only that it can be better. So let's not sit around and gush about how everyone is super happy and the only people complaining are just worrywarts who don't give a damn about joy and smiles. Instead, let's look at these criticisms, think about them honestly, and try to imagine what books would look like with the actual criticism, and not the hyperbole so many of you want to perpetuate.</p><p></p><p>What if Vanrichten's as 320 pages? Those extra pages would probably be put-together stat blocks for the Darklords and more gameable content in each Domain of Dread. How is that bad? Is it wrong to want a book comparable to Wildemonte or Eberron in terms of content? Is it even wrong to want a book like Fizban's, perhaps the best sourcebook for 5E done so far? And if it is wrong, why? Why is it wrong that I want Van Richten's to be an even better book, with more gameable content in it? Why is it such a problem that I want D&D to get even better than it is instead of plateauing where it is at?</p><p></p><p>You didn't directly say any of this, but your post heavily implies it, even if you didn't intend to imply it. Meeting criticism with guffawing about how happy everyone is, is the most cowardly and ineffective way to actually deal with criticism. Not calling you a coward.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shardstone, post: 8705315, member: 6807784"] Ya but, so what? People are allowed to complain. Its good that people complain. If we lived in a world where everyone circlejerked on how great WotC's every release was, we'd have a bizarre 1984 society where its either you close your eyes and drink the kool-aid or get ostracized for daring to have an artistic opinion seperate from the company producing the art. The thing is, I mostly agree with [USER=18]@Ruin Explorer[/USER] and [I]I like a lot of WotC's content.[/I] I loved Van Richten's, Fizban's, Wild Beyond the Witchlight, Radiant Citadel. But some of these, like Van Richtens, could be better. And saying that this content can be better doesn't mean we have to make up a list of hyperboles, as often happens on this forum, to make those critical of the content look asinine. Instead, you could actually say to yourself "Ya, this is a good product, but what if it did include 20 more pages on XYZ? Then it'd be even better!" This statement doesn't negate that something is good, only that it can be better. So let's not sit around and gush about how everyone is super happy and the only people complaining are just worrywarts who don't give a damn about joy and smiles. Instead, let's look at these criticisms, think about them honestly, and try to imagine what books would look like with the actual criticism, and not the hyperbole so many of you want to perpetuate. What if Vanrichten's as 320 pages? Those extra pages would probably be put-together stat blocks for the Darklords and more gameable content in each Domain of Dread. How is that bad? Is it wrong to want a book comparable to Wildemonte or Eberron in terms of content? Is it even wrong to want a book like Fizban's, perhaps the best sourcebook for 5E done so far? And if it is wrong, why? Why is it wrong that I want Van Richten's to be an even better book, with more gameable content in it? Why is it such a problem that I want D&D to get even better than it is instead of plateauing where it is at? You didn't directly say any of this, but your post heavily implies it, even if you didn't intend to imply it. Meeting criticism with guffawing about how happy everyone is, is the most cowardly and ineffective way to actually deal with criticism. Not calling you a coward. [/QUOTE]
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