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D&D 5E 5e isn't a Golden Age of D&D Lorewise, it's Silver at best.

5e might mechanically be the best system and it's certainly the most popular (possibly soon to be even more so), but is far from D&D's second golden age.

It simply doesn't approach AD&D depth of lore, heck it doesn't even out do Basic D&D on lore. This isn't an edition war post, mechncally and certain other ways 5e is my favourite edition, but I don't pretend its something its not, a golden age.

Social Media/Pop culture is fueling D&D's popularity. Playtesters pushed WotC in a direction, accidentily, that just dove tailed with streaming and other cultural pheonomana.

Compare to AD&D the lore is extremely shallow, occasionally self contradictory in the sane book, shallow (deserved to be said twice), and often is starved for room because 5e books try to be too many things at once, and so do few to none of them well.

Hell even 4e had deeper dives into settings it did.

It also confusingly mixes generic D&D lore with FR lore sowing confusion. I'm still baffled by much of MToFs lore and parts of VGtM.

3rd parties shouldn't be vastly out doing WotC on quality & support of their settings. I bought the core 5e Southland books from their Kickstarter and it straight up kicks the ass of WotC's best, most well done 5e setting books. Its not alone in doing so. I wish WotC supported it's settings half as well as Kobold press does there's. Honestly the paper quality and the binding quality for Southlands is also vastly superior.

Also they killed most of the novel lines in 5e just as things were getting good. This we do not forgive or forget!





So no it's not a Golden Age, it's system and current popular earn it silver at best.
 

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I disagree.

For the most part, every lore change made for 5E has — against mainstream opinion — been a success in my eyes. I think elves are far more interesting and playable and worth thinking about then before, I think the infernal war machines makes Hell a lot cooler, and things like the Raven Queen I find far more interesting with her new lore as compared to the old.

All perspective, I guess!
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
I disagree.

For the most part, every lore change made for 5E has — against mainstream opinion — been a success in my eyes. I think elves are far more interesting and playable and worth thinking about then before, I think the infernal war machines makes Hell a lot cooler, and things like the Raven Queen I find far more interesting with her new lore as compared to the old.

All perspective, I guess!
I don't think thst is against mainstream opinion, at all.
 

a.everett1287

Explorer
I disagree.

For the most part, every lore change made for 5E has — against mainstream opinion — been a success in my eyes. I think elves are far more interesting and playable and worth thinking about then before, I think the infernal war machines makes Hell a lot cooler, and things like the Raven Queen I find far more interesting with her new lore as compared to the old.

All perspective, I guess!
This is not the abnormal opinion. It is shared by most people.
 

Reynard

Legend
Supporter
I disagree.

For the most part, every lore change made for 5E has — against mainstream opinion — been a success in my eyes. I think elves are far more interesting and playable and worth thinking about then before, I think the infernal war machines makes Hell a lot cooler, and things like the Raven Queen I find far more interesting with her new lore as compared to the old.

All perspective, I guess!
I donthink that is what they are saying. Rather, they seem to be saying that 5e like is definitively more shallow than previous editions, in no small part because there are so many fewer publications than in previous editions. Even discounting major releases, there is no Deagon to build the story of the world's. And WotC only seems to bother with YouTube videos when they want to sell a thing.

Certainly there are real world economic reasons for this, but that doesn't change the fact that it is notably more shallow than previous editions.
 

a.everett1287

Explorer
I donthink that is what they are saying. Rather, they seem to be saying that 5e like is definitively more shallow than previous editions, in no small part because there are so many fewer publications than in previous editions. Even discounting major releases, there is no Deagon to build the story of the world's. And WotC only seems to bother with YouTube videos when they want to sell a thing.

Certainly there are real world economic reasons for this, but that doesn't change the fact that it is notably more shallow than previous editions.
I forgot that bloat means depth


Edit: this was meant more facetious than it came out. I don't entertain the original position enough to have a non-facetious response.
 




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