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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fuindordm" data-source="post: 6986732" data-attributes="member: 5435">I've been able to ambush my PCs.Here's how I run it:A group of 4 wolves (stealth +4) tries to sneak up through the woods to the range of a single move.The highest passive perception in the party is 15.The wolves roll a group stealth check and get 8, 13, 17, 22.Half beat the target number of 15, so they do get to that range and can trigger a surprise round.I haven't tried to deal yet with deciding which individual PCs are or are not surprised in the first round. I could probably do this in a more granular way, using the group stealth check to reach combat range and another set of stealth vs passive perception, or active perception vs a fixed DC, to determine individual surprise in the first round. But generally speaking, I think it's OK that a single PC with proficiency in Perception can have a big effect on saving the party from ambushes. And there are other ways for monsters to get stealth bonuses, such as darkness, cover, and lying in wait for traveling PCs.Ben</blockquote>