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5e: Stat the Lady of Pain...so we can overthrow her
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<blockquote data-quote="Dungeonosophy" data-source="post: 5853473" data-attributes="member: 6688049"><p>D&D ought to be a game of gonzo heroism. Isn't it unmanly that we're told that the Lady of Pain is an unknowable, unstattable, unkillable character?</p><p> </p><p>It seems to me this situation:</p><p> </p><p>1) Stokes the one-upmanship of the designers of the Planescape setting, so they can say "my overgod is better than all the gods of the D&D worlds"</p><p>2) Sets an "edgy" postmodern grey nihilism at the center of the 2e multiverse. Luckily Sigil got split off as its own right-sized astral dominion in 4e.</p><p>3) Reminds us that we're just fanboys who should bow and scrape to the published settings.</p><p> </p><p>Immortal-level PCs ought to be able to eventually supplant any god, demon, pantheon, and overgod in every D&D world. And eventually rule any and all planets, planes, and multiverses as their personal dominion.</p><p> </p><p>I was raised on Mystara, where we had official rules for becoming an Overgod:</p><p> </p><p>Step 1: advance to 36th level</p><p>Step 2: ascend to Immortality</p><p>Step 3: advance to 36th level in the Immortal Class (total character level = 72)</p><p>Step 4: renounce Immortality and be reborn as a 1st-level mortal character</p><p>Step 5: repeat steps 1, 2, and 3, having adventured through 144 character levels.</p><p>Step 6: voila! my character becomes an Old One.</p><p> </p><p>So. For 5e I'll be looking for stats for the Lady of Pain, the Dark Powers of Ravenloft, the Old Ones of the Mystara Multiverse, the High God of Krynn, and Lord Ao.</p><p> </p><p>When our adventuring party reaches 144th level, we'll be knockin on their door.</p><p> </p><p>Is anyone with me?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dungeonosophy, post: 5853473, member: 6688049"] D&D ought to be a game of gonzo heroism. Isn't it unmanly that we're told that the Lady of Pain is an unknowable, unstattable, unkillable character? It seems to me this situation: 1) Stokes the one-upmanship of the designers of the Planescape setting, so they can say "my overgod is better than all the gods of the D&D worlds" 2) Sets an "edgy" postmodern grey nihilism at the center of the 2e multiverse. Luckily Sigil got split off as its own right-sized astral dominion in 4e. 3) Reminds us that we're just fanboys who should bow and scrape to the published settings. Immortal-level PCs ought to be able to eventually supplant any god, demon, pantheon, and overgod in every D&D world. And eventually rule any and all planets, planes, and multiverses as their personal dominion. I was raised on Mystara, where we had official rules for becoming an Overgod: Step 1: advance to 36th level Step 2: ascend to Immortality Step 3: advance to 36th level in the Immortal Class (total character level = 72) Step 4: renounce Immortality and be reborn as a 1st-level mortal character Step 5: repeat steps 1, 2, and 3, having adventured through 144 character levels. Step 6: voila! my character becomes an Old One. So. For 5e I'll be looking for stats for the Lady of Pain, the Dark Powers of Ravenloft, the Old Ones of the Mystara Multiverse, the High God of Krynn, and Lord Ao. When our adventuring party reaches 144th level, we'll be knockin on their door. Is anyone with me? [/QUOTE]
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