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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dangerous jack" data-source="post: 5938851" data-attributes="member: 23654">I am arguing for baseline, but not no power whatsoever.  There are two ways to do it.1) give humans effective and simple to understand powers.  E.g. A reroll of any single roll once / encounter, and/or a 4e action point.  These are powerful enough (yet simple enough) that other races could still have bonuses.2) embrace penalties and drawbacks.  E.g. Elves take -1 con, and -1 to str or cha, they can't heal the round after taking necrotic damage, and maybe something elseThat said, I'll admit that the human barbarian and river folk races you mention work for me... but in a game that also had non-humans I'd still want the demi-humans to be even more distinct.</blockquote>