D&D General 6E But A + Thread

[NN]

I want Shadowdark except less lethal with more magic and no torches.

But why would you buy a new system when half a dozen pages of house rules would do the same job?

 

[CreamCloud0]

I would also want rules that explain where the super powers come from.

No,. i know you've already been given this answer in several threads a dozen times over, we're not derailing another just to satisfy micah sweet's worldbuilding grouses yet again for a game you by your own admittance have little to no interest in playing yourself.

it's a fantasy word, people can do fantastical things, please stop bringing it up and let us actually have the conversation we're trying to have.

 

[Lanefan]

Without throwing it.

Not gonna happen.

You want to kill someone 20 feet across the room with a sword? Then either you gotta have a 20-foot long sword (and good luck getting that down the twisty hallway!); or have a sword that shoots lightning or death rays now and then; or a sword you can throw.

GobHag's ideas are fine for optional mythic-level play but not for the core game.

 

[NN]

two 350-page books

No.

Two 100 page booklets.

 

[Lanefan]

They do? Where are they? Why do they get no representation?

Because as far as I can tell, no such thing has been represented in D&D--not even 4e--outside of the 3.5e Book of Nine Swords content. That's the one and only place such things have ever been presented. What have I missed?

That you have to train to level up in 1e fairly strongly implies the existence of places where such can be done - martial arts or mercenary training schools, thieves' guilds, mages' guilds or labs, temples, etc.

It's explicitly called out for the Monk - they have monasteries where they get their training - and Bard, for what that's worth.

 

[Lanefan]

No,. i know you've already been given this answer in several threads a dozen times over, we're not derailing another just to satisfy micah sweet's worldbuilding grouses yet again for a game you by your own admittance have little to no interest in playing yourself.

it's a fantasy word, people can do fantastical things, please stop bringing it up and let us actually have the conversation we're trying to have.

Thing is, if you can't explain how a fantastical thing works in the fantasy you're hung out to dry if-when someone wants to replicate it, or find a way to prevent it, or find an in-fiction explanation for it.

Mid-to-high-level PC: "I've been hit by one too many Dragon breaths over the years. During downtime I want to figure out the physiology of how they do it so I can work out a way of proactively stopping them from using that ability before they start."
DM: (with no rules or guidance to back her up) "Uuhhhhhhh....... "

 

[NN]

GobHag's ideas are fine for optional mythic-level play but not for the core game.

conclusion:

we don't want 6E

we want half a dozen variants ranging from shadowdark-esque simplicity and low power thru to epic superhero stuff

the simplest half of the range need to make an effort to make dming fun, the “forever dm” is a bad thing.

 

[Minigiant]

I'd combine some of those to get three completely separate (yet vaguely compatible) games:

1. The primary game (0-10) - it could go open-ended after 10 for those as don't want to go Legendary, but this would be the core game; the other two would be completely optional
2. Legendary levels (11-20 or 11-25) - for those who want to bounce around planes, fight deities, etc. without all that low-level fussing
3. Mythic levels (everything higher) - this would be D&D as a full-on supers game for those who want to be deities.

Personally, if make 0th level play its own box.

The 5e sweet spot is a sweet spot for a reason.
D&D fans like their PCs competent but easy to run.

Novice: Levels -2 to 0. Simple incompetent PCs.
Heroic: Levels 1-10 Simple competent PCs.
Paragon: Level 11-20 Advanced master PCs
Epic: Level 20-30 Complex grandmaster PCs with reality and narrative warping skill

 

[mamba]

conclusion:

we don't want 6E

we want half a dozen variants ranging from shadowdark-esque simplicity and low power thru to epic superhero stuff

I could have told you that in post #2

 

[kermit4karate]

The 5e sweet spot is a sweet spot for a reason.
D&D fans like their PCs competent but easy to run.

I think that's a key observation.