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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 7416840" data-attributes="member: 58197">Monsters in the CR 0 to 1/2 range average slightly better on Con save than Dex; the difference is a bit over half a point, not much, but it favors Con. At higher levels, the difference becomes much more dramatic. (I only have data for Basic Rules monsters right now, but I would not expect the full MM to change much.)Targeting Con save is never a good thing for a spell.This is basically correct; thunder is slightly more-resisted, but the difference is not enough to worry about. Still, to the extent there is a difference, it favors force.The gap is not large, but sword burst is the superior spell. (To me, the biggest knock on thunderclap has nothing to do with its damage-dealing ability; it's the fact that it announces your presence to everything in a 100-foot radius.)</blockquote>