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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson Longinus" data-source="post: 8515630" data-attributes="member: 7025508"><p>Not here. But it definitely was a major argument in ASI threads around the release of Tasha's.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Pick what? I am talking about 5e, mostly. I'm not some grognard that is in love with old editions of D&D, they were mostly incoherent rubbish. </p><p></p><p></p><p>They absolutely are smarter in the sense D&D intelligence measures. i.e. memory and reasoning. They may not do so well in lateral thinking and creativity, but that's not what we're talking about. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I fully agree that this is an area where one should be particularly careful. But as gnomes show, it is not impossible to do in non-offensive way.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Complaints about 'biological essentialism' were a a huge thing in the threads around Tashas'. I am definitely not making this up. But I am also not particularly interested in relitigating that, and if you don't think that it is a sensible angle, then great!</p><p></p><p></p><p>You got max +2 from race, so one point of modifier. With point buy you get a stat from eight to 15, that's going from -1 to +2 modifier, so four points of modifiers. So that that's main source of modifiers, not the race. And where those points go is basically dictated by the class, especially for the main stat. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Don't you have a PHB?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Why I don't complain about ancient and irrelevant edition I don't play and never intend to? That certainly is a mystery! </p><p></p><p></p><p>The rules tell you what it measures. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. Buti if mechanic cannot be deleted, then it should actually function sensibly. So if ability scores are to remain, they should actually mean something.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So you think splats like races and classes only exist for balance reason? I don't buy that. They're thematic archetypes with rules that support those themes. And that's how it should be. </p><p></p><p></p><p>My 5e PHB relatively clearly tells what the ability scores measure. Seems coherent enough.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crimson Longinus, post: 8515630, member: 7025508"] Not here. But it definitely was a major argument in ASI threads around the release of Tasha's. Pick what? I am talking about 5e, mostly. I'm not some grognard that is in love with old editions of D&D, they were mostly incoherent rubbish. They absolutely are smarter in the sense D&D intelligence measures. i.e. memory and reasoning. They may not do so well in lateral thinking and creativity, but that's not what we're talking about. I fully agree that this is an area where one should be particularly careful. But as gnomes show, it is not impossible to do in non-offensive way. Complaints about 'biological essentialism' were a a huge thing in the threads around Tashas'. I am definitely not making this up. But I am also not particularly interested in relitigating that, and if you don't think that it is a sensible angle, then great! You got max +2 from race, so one point of modifier. With point buy you get a stat from eight to 15, that's going from -1 to +2 modifier, so four points of modifiers. So that that's main source of modifiers, not the race. And where those points go is basically dictated by the class, especially for the main stat. Don't you have a PHB? Why I don't complain about ancient and irrelevant edition I don't play and never intend to? That certainly is a mystery! The rules tell you what it measures. Sure. Buti if mechanic cannot be deleted, then it should actually function sensibly. So if ability scores are to remain, they should actually mean something. So you think splats like races and classes only exist for balance reason? I don't buy that. They're thematic archetypes with rules that support those themes. And that's how it should be. My 5e PHB relatively clearly tells what the ability scores measure. Seems coherent enough. [/QUOTE]
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