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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 8516577" data-attributes="member: 3400">Funny - &quot;Limiting design space by applying +2 Str and +1 Con to strong races...&quot; [Emphasis mine]I assume what you mean to put in there is &quot;big races&quot; since where else would you put an ASI for a strong race but in strength?But you're wrong in assuming anyone feels that a big race has to have those bonuses and only those bonuses when being designed. A big race could be relatively thin and willowy and not get a bonus to strength at all - that would definitely be a different design. Moreover, a firbolg may have a +1 to Str, but their higher ASI is a +2 to Wis. It doesn't really feel like the design space around them is too constricted even if the secondary ASI is to strength. Goliaths have the +2 Str, +1 Con because that's a significant element of their concept. In Pathfinder, elves are a little bigger than humans on average - they kept the Dex bonus and didn't have to take on a Str bonus because they followed a different concept.And my take on these bonuses is they're a better fit for the overall racial package rather than free floating for the individual - which is why I lean into the archetypes, as Tasha's calls it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 8516577, member: 3400"] Funny - "Limiting design space by applying +2 Str and +1 Con to [B]strong [/B]races..." [Emphasis mine] I assume what you mean to put in there is "big races" since where else would you put an ASI for a strong race but in strength? But you're wrong in assuming anyone feels that a big race [B]has [/B]to have those bonuses and only those bonuses when being designed. A big race could be relatively thin and willowy and not get a bonus to strength at all - that would definitely be a different design. Moreover, a firbolg may have a +1 to Str, but their higher ASI is a +2 to Wis. It doesn't really feel like the design space around them is too constricted even if the secondary ASI is to strength. Goliaths have the +2 Str, +1 Con because that's a significant element of their concept. In Pathfinder, elves are a little bigger than humans on average - they kept the Dex bonus and didn't have to take on a Str bonus because they followed a different concept. And my take on these bonuses is they're a better fit for the overall racial package rather than free floating for the individual - which is why I [B]lean into[/B] the archetypes, as Tasha's calls it. [/QUOTE]

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