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<blockquote data-quote="Mordhau" data-source="post: 8517166" data-attributes="member: 7032137">Issue is that I think for a Goliath being stronger than at least regular humans, is part of their special trait.I also think that quite often the character's special traits are written to complement their existing ASIs.&nbsp; Half-Orcs and Goliaths are written to be melee combatants.&nbsp; Their whole package is written to support that.&nbsp; (It's overly narrow, but then that in effect is the problem with archetypes.)Edit: Also the whole thing where the Goliath Sorcerer has a Str of 10&nbsp; and Powerful Build (which already exists under current rules), is already pretty unsatisfactory.It's like putting someone in a running race, tying both their legs together, and then giving them a big propeller on their back to compensate.What it's really saying is that we think Goliaths should be stronger than other races, just not in any way that really matters.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mordhau, post: 8517166, member: 7032137"] Issue is that I think for a Goliath being stronger than [I]at least[/I] regular humans, is part of their special trait. I also think that quite often the character's special traits are written to complement their existing ASIs. Half-Orcs and Goliaths are written to be melee combatants. Their whole package is written to support that. (It's overly narrow, but then that in effect is the problem with archetypes.) Edit: Also the whole thing where the Goliath Sorcerer has a Str of 10 [I]and [/I]Powerful Build (which already exists under current rules), is already pretty unsatisfactory. It's like putting someone in a running race, tying both their legs together, and then giving them a big propeller on their back to compensate. What it's really saying is that we think Goliaths should be stronger than other races, just not in any way that [I]really matters[/I]. [/QUOTE]

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