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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mordhau" data-source="post: 8520918" data-attributes="member: 7032137">Yeah, but I think that far from underestimating it, the design is actually making use of that pressure toward optimisation.  I can't find a quote now, but I seem to remember an interview with Mearls about 4e, where he said that it was an explicit goal they had to reinforce character types that were considered "iconic."This is why a Dwarf Fighter in 4e is an absolutely awesome defender/tank character, to the point of perhaps being a little overpowered.  It was a correction from 3e when if you asked someone what was the best tank you would have got answer like Half Dragon/Aasimar/Paladin 3/Cleric1 /Soul of the Radiant Sun4 /Sacred Fist 3 etc, which can leave the guy who just wants to play a simple Dwarf Fighter and be really tough feeling somewhat overwhelmed.5e seems to have been designed with the same thinking in mind.</blockquote>