a harpoon of returning...

00durrin

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The returning enchantment says
"This enchantment can only be placed on a weapon that can be thrown. A returning weapon returns through the air back to the creature that threw it. It returns on the round following the round it was thrown just before its throwing creature's turn. It is therefore ready to use again that turn."

If I put this on a harpoon, and it sinks into the victim. Does it tear free and return normally?

What if someone grabs a returning weapon between it being thrown and returning. Does it try to return then?

It says it returns to the thrower, not the "wielder." What happens if someone throws a returning weapon BACK at the original thrower before it had a chance to return (i.e. between the original thrower's initiatives). Does it then return to the most recent thrower?

This is all very confusing.
 

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What if someone grabs a returning weapon between it being thrown and returning. Does it try to return then?

Snatch Arrows style?

If they throw it back, I'd say they're definitely now the Person In Charge... just like if someone takes your Defending longsword off you, it will Defend them instead.

If they don't throw it back... my personal ruling would be that if it's prevented from Returning (someone grabs it, someone uses a Wall of Force to block off the return path, the original thrower teleports away...), it gives up.

But that's unsupported.

-Hyp.
 

I hereby forbid hypersmurf from being the first to respond to my posts...he always rules against what i want (pffft!) and other people seem to respect his opinion and don't post after him!
:p
 

Nah I disagree, after the weapon is thrown it returns *no matter what happens*, the weaon needs to be taken out of the bearers hands to or picked up from the ground (after a disarm) to NOT return to the owner.
The magic inside the weapon is triggered after the weapon is willingly thrown at a target, thus the weapon will return as soon as it strikes (or misses).
Thus the harpoon will disapear immidiately after it struck the target and all its juicy sideeffects are gone.
The only way I could imagine that would weapons allow to stay at the enemies body if there was a rule that said that weapons only return after some codeword is spoken...but this would mean that the weapon could be ultimately teleported into the owners hands from just about anywhere and anytime--> and I'm sure it was not meant to be this way...
 

Thus the harpoon will disapear immidiately after it struck the target and all its juicy sideeffects are gone.

...but this would mean that the weapon could be ultimately teleported into the owners hands from just about anywhere and anytime...

Disappears, you say? Teleports, you say?

Interesting - my DMG says "returns through the air back to the creature".

-Hyp.
 

Indeed, the normal magical returning simply travles back through the air. The psionic equivelent teleports back into your hand...

Pseronaly, I think it would try to return, and give someone who caught one and held onto it a reflex save to keep this from happening. If they dropped the weapon I'd have it return automaticaly. If they stowed it I think it would simply stay in their gear. If they threw it I'd agree with hypersmurf and say the're in charge now.
 

Hypersmurf said:


Disappears, you say? Teleports, you say?

Interesting - my DMG says "returns through the air back to the creature".

-Hyp.


OOPs my wrong then, you are right there of course!
Yeah I played too much psionics lately...sorry!
 

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