Which was further driven home by Dunk’s confusion about what he was even talking about. I thought the scene, despite the humorous logo bit, did a lot to further their character development.
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Whizbang Dustyboots
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Also, if you're a smartypants and a prince, you probably don't get smacked upside the head for this kind of stuff, so Egg is probably happy to spout off stuff that is only kind of, sort of true, because only a handful of people can correct him, and most of them are busy torturing the small folk.
I was just thinking about how any knight can knight a knight. How does that not immediately turn into a knight knighting pyramid scheme?
Just imagining if that was how it worked in real life. Elton John and Stephen Fry going round knighting people. The whole country would be knights within a week!
Just imagining if that was how it worked in real life. Elton John and Stephen Fry going round knighting people. The whole country would be knights within a week!
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
Someone get Morrus the email address to apply for the writing team, because this is a good one.
Probably because if you knight someone who brings dishonour to himself - most noticeably by not being a capable fighter - the dishonour would attach itself to you too. It's supposed to be an exclusive club, and the members won't take kindly to someone who lets any old riff-raff join.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
Just takes one bad apple to bring the whole house of cards tumbling down. Just one knight who decides to knight anybody who gives him a gold coin. It would cascade exponentially from there.
There’s no way that system could work.
Tonguez
A suffusion of yellow
Prior to the 15th Century that is how it worked - any Knight could knight their Squire. The Biggest restriction was the need for the new Knight to have expensive armour, weapons and a Horse - which meant that he had to have Wealthy sponsors/family. (the other thing is Knights were constantly fighting, so it wasnt too hard to ensure an unworthy knight had a very short career)
Its only from the 15th Century that Knighthood becomes an exclusive club where only the sons of knights can be knights unless created directly by the Monarch
Mannahnin
Scion of Murgen (He/Him)
Presumably anyone with gold already is a knight or has more social standing and power than a hedge knight.
What does the title of knight actually get you in Westeros? We haven't seen much actual power or privilege attach to it. But there are expectations of fighting, which is risking your life.
There's definitely a substantial cost associated with looking the part; horses and armor are expensive. Dunk functionally inherited the bare minimum to play the part, and still had to sell one of his horses (the fancy palfrey, Sweetfoot) just to afford inferior (chain instead of plate like most of the knights were wearing) armor which he barely survived the tourney in.
From what I read here (maybe someone else who remembers the book better can expand on this), basically you get to be called "Ser", have your own coat of arms/heraldry, and the right to bear weapons and armor. But no money, land or income unless a lord chooses to give you those things, which you've got to earn through (dangerous) service. And unless you've gotten the years of training under a knight or master of arms, you're almost certainly going to get killed once you go up against a "real" knight.
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