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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Eddie_Hawkins" data-source="post: 2559967">I can hold this in no longer.  To the three individuals that this is addressed, please read this post in its entirety as there are a few things I may say in parts before or after yours that may say what I'm trying to say better than what I said in yours.  It's just too much work to go back and re-edit it all again, though I tried to keep this all inoffensive.To Tahereh's Player: I agree with Krystal's player, if not with how she worded it.  (No offense.)  If Astaegloss has a problem with this, let him come forward.  If you know him, inform him so that he might do so.  That should be your role, other than simply giving your opinion.  Just because you are one of the originals, that does not give you the right to demand that others play it as it lies.  (No offense, but thems the facts.)  The only one who has the right to do so is Astaegloss, and that isn't you.Astaegloss posted the information about his Redeemers for a reason, whatever that may be.  But if he would have not wanted them tampered with, I think, as a fellow writer, that he would have included that request in the information posted.Elistor's player and his/her friends have a completely reasonable variation that they have modeled their characters after.  Just about all religious orders faction.  And these factions are reasonable.Since Astaegloss posted the information on his Redeemers publicly, with no additional wishes as to the level of integrity any newer versions that may arise should hold with respect to the originals, this was bound to happen.  And it isn't necessarily a bad thing.  For all you know, Astaegloss may be pleasantly suprised by a direction his creation, that seems to me to have obtained a life of its own, a life seeded by Astaegloss himself, has taken.  This sort of thing is actually pleasant for some writers.  It's like a child grown up and embarking on its own.Let Astaegloss make up his own mind, develop his own opinion, about how to view this.  Let him decide if this aparent cruesade you have begun on his behalf is necessary, or even wanted.To Krystal's player: I think what you are trying to say is that creativity and change is good. Yes, even changing creativity.  Astaegloss created and then posted his creation publicly, thus opening it up to the possibility of change.  He allowed it to leave his hands and allowed it to possibly enter the hands of others.  And in doing so, therein lied the possibility of change through those possible hands, should they be creative enough and motivated enough by Astaegloss' creation.I think what you are trying to communicate is that, to a writer, being inspired may be a wonderful gift, but being inspiration is so much more wonderful, much rarer a gift than we can ever expect.  I think you are trying to say that your opinion is that Astaegloss will react with pride and will be pleased.Well, as a writer, that's what I'm getting from what you said.To Elistor's player: We have met,briefly.  You directed Elistor to offer to heal Eddie.  I directed him to decline.  Just thought I'd remind you.I do not reccommend withdrawing your character.  You and your friends have simply brought a creative idea into the future from the past.  Most, if not all, worthy ideas are built upon other worthy ideas in the past.I had heard of the Redeemers when I first arrived on Wizards Chat.  I was told of them as a thing of the past, as if they were ancient relics of a bygone time.  Speaking as a writer, I know that I wouldn't want my creation to become that.  I would want it to continue.  As a writer, I create for the enjoyment of others.  You and your friends are merely helping Astaegloss' intent, to entertain others, to continue instead of dying out.Your intent was good.  That is what matters.  That you enjoyed what you have taken, regardless of which direction you have taken it, well, I feel confident that that is what Astaegloss would most likely see as the important thing.Although I cannot say for certain, since I don't know Astaegloss, I believe I know a part of him, as a writer.  I believe he'd understand that he practically gave his approval for use of his creation in any way that they may be used, whether as is or as inspiration, when he released them to you and everyone else that has viewed them since the public release of Astaegloss' Redeemers of Teht.  I don't think he'd want you and your friends to withdraw.My unsolicited advice?  Enjoy yourselves and continue to do so, as was Astaegloss' wish when he gave us all his creation.Best wishes to all and lets just try to enjoy our own creativity as well as the creativity others have offered us.By the way, I just acquired this quote from Astaegloss' website: Sounds to me that Astaegloss is well aware that his Redeemers might have changed in another's hands after they were posted!  Yes, it says in games other than FFO, but I think it shows his feelings on the subject quite clearly.  Shouldn't this end this discussion unless Astaegloss himself made his feelings known, directly?</blockquote>

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