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<blockquote data-quote="Emirikol" data-source="post: 3416746" data-attributes="member: 10638">I encourage our players to choose non-PHB spells.&nbsp; That's made the game more interesting.&nbsp; I've not forced them to use non-PHB classes however.&nbsp; I don't think it would be hard.You wouldn't have to mandate it if you just &quot;encouraged&quot; it.For example, Knight, Scout, Non-Spell-Ranger, Samurai, Swashbuckler, Ninja are all the NON-SPELLCASTER classes.&nbsp; You could give them a bonus feat over PHB classes.As for races, you've got a lot more work on your hands.&nbsp; What I did was to create &quot;races&quot; for the humans based on the CONAN game.&nbsp; Sometimes, you can get people to look harder at &quot;culture&quot; rather than just statistics. Here are a few below without cultural details from our house rulebook:Black Tribesman, NorthernAfrican cultures of Kush, Chaga-Kush, Keshan, Punt, and Zembabwei·&nbsp; &nbsp; Skills: Hide, Move Silently, Perform (drums &amp; dance), Survival·&nbsp; &nbsp; Environment:&nbsp; Jungle or Grassland·&nbsp; &nbsp; Benefit:&nbsp; Proficient in all primitive weapons·&nbsp; &nbsp; Drawback:&nbsp; -2 penalty to all fear saves·&nbsp; &nbsp; Religion:&nbsp; Derketa (death aspect), Jullah, Ollum-onga, Thog, Set, Dagon, other jungle gods &amp; demons·&nbsp; &nbsp; Language (illiterate): Kushite, Keshani, Puntan, or Zembabwean as appropriate·&nbsp; &nbsp; Magical affinity:&nbsp; Nyambe or spellcasterBlack Tribesman, Northern, Chaga-Kushite AristocratAristocrat caste of Kush.&nbsp; Mixed with lighter Stygian blood.·&nbsp; &nbsp; As Black Tribesman except:·&nbsp; &nbsp; Skills:&nbsp; Perform (ritual), Craft (any), Diplomacy·&nbsp; &nbsp; Environment:&nbsp; Kush only·&nbsp; &nbsp; Benefit:&nbsp; Bonus feat:&nbsp; skill-based·&nbsp; &nbsp; Drawback:&nbsp; lose primitive weapon proficiency·&nbsp; &nbsp; Religion:&nbsp; Set·&nbsp; &nbsp; Language: Kushite and Stygian·&nbsp; &nbsp; Magical affinity:&nbsp; Nyambe, spellcaster, sorcerer, wizardBlack Tribesman, Northern, DarfariThese are maniac cannibal savages of Darfar.·&nbsp; &nbsp; As Black Tribesman except:·&nbsp; &nbsp; Benefit:&nbsp; Bite attack:&nbsp; a Darfari who is grappling an opponent may bite their victim with a 1d2+1 lethal damage in addition to other unarmed damage.·&nbsp; &nbsp; Drawback:&nbsp; Lose primitive weapon proficiency except for primitive bludgeoning weapons·&nbsp; &nbsp; Religion:&nbsp; Yog, cannibal demon·&nbsp; &nbsp; Language: Darfari (illiterate)Black Tribesman, SouthernObscure African cultures of Bakalah, Zamballa, Atlaia, , Amazon, Tibu, Tombalku, Bamul, Ghanata desert, Mandiga, Suba, island, or Wadai tribes.&nbsp; See Road of Kings map p.76 for locations.·&nbsp; &nbsp; Skills:&nbsp; Survival, Perform (drums &amp; dance)o&nbsp; &nbsp; Islander &amp; coastal: Profession (sailor), Swimo&nbsp; &nbsp; Ghanata desert – Ride, Handle animalo&nbsp; &nbsp; All others: Hide, Move Silently·&nbsp; &nbsp; Environment:&nbsp; Jungle, Desert, Grassland, or Sea (islanders)·&nbsp; &nbsp; Benefit:&nbsp; Proficient in all primitive weapons·&nbsp; &nbsp; Drawback:&nbsp; -2 penalty to all fear saves·&nbsp; &nbsp; Religion:&nbsp; Ollum-onga, Thog, Ajujo the dark, etc.·&nbsp; &nbsp; Language (illiterate):&nbsp; Tibu, Tombalku, Southern Islander, Bamulah, Ghanatan, Mandingan, Suba, or Wadai·&nbsp; &nbsp; Magical affinity: Nyambe, spirit shaman, spellcasterCimmerianThe hillman race of Conan; ancestors of the Atlanteans.&nbsp; Clan names_____________________________________________________________________________________·&nbsp; &nbsp; Ability: +2 str, -2 int·&nbsp; &nbsp; Skills: climb, move silent, survival; ·&nbsp; &nbsp; Environment:&nbsp; hills or mountains·&nbsp; &nbsp; Benefit:&nbsp; +1 to will saves·&nbsp; &nbsp; Drawback:&nbsp; -2 to diplomacy and verbal bluff checks·&nbsp; &nbsp; Religion:&nbsp; Crom &amp; Celtic pantheon·&nbsp; &nbsp; Language:&nbsp; Cimmerian·&nbsp; &nbsp; Magical affinity: NoneHyborian – Common Hyborian (Aquilonia, Argos, Nemedia, Border Kingdom, Brythunia, Corinthia, Koth, Khauran, Ophir)Hyborian culture is akin to European medieval culture·&nbsp; &nbsp; Skills:&nbsp; any three·&nbsp; &nbsp; Environment: choose one ·&nbsp; &nbsp; Benefit:&nbsp; None·&nbsp; &nbsp; Drawback:&nbsp; None·&nbsp; &nbsp; Religion:&nbsp; Mitra predominates, Wiccana in Brythunia; Bori in Gunderland·&nbsp; &nbsp; Language: The language of whichever Hyborian Kingdom they live in.&nbsp; This will be either Bossonian, Nemedian, Aquilonian, Brythunian, Ophirean, Cornthian, Kothic, or Argossean.·&nbsp; &nbsp; Magical affinity:&nbsp; bard, cleric, druid (Brythunian only), ranger, sorcerer, spellcaster, wizard</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Emirikol, post: 3416746, member: 10638"] I encourage our players to choose non-PHB spells. That's made the game more interesting. I've not forced them to use non-PHB classes however. I don't think it would be hard. You wouldn't have to mandate it if you just "encouraged" it. For example, Knight, Scout, Non-Spell-Ranger, Samurai, Swashbuckler, Ninja are all the NON-SPELLCASTER classes. You could give them a bonus feat over PHB classes. As for races, you've got a lot more work on your hands. What I did was to create "races" for the humans based on the CONAN game. Sometimes, you can get people to look harder at "culture" rather than just statistics. Here are a few below without cultural details from our house rulebook: Black Tribesman, Northern African cultures of Kush, Chaga-Kush, Keshan, Punt, and Zembabwei · Skills: Hide, Move Silently, Perform (drums & dance), Survival · Environment: Jungle or Grassland · Benefit: Proficient in all primitive weapons · Drawback: -2 penalty to all fear saves · Religion: Derketa (death aspect), Jullah, Ollum-onga, Thog, Set, Dagon, other jungle gods & demons · Language (illiterate): Kushite, Keshani, Puntan, or Zembabwean as appropriate · Magical affinity: Nyambe or spellcaster Black Tribesman, Northern, Chaga-Kushite Aristocrat Aristocrat caste of Kush. Mixed with lighter Stygian blood. · As Black Tribesman except: · Skills: Perform (ritual), Craft (any), Diplomacy · Environment: Kush only · Benefit: Bonus feat: skill-based · Drawback: lose primitive weapon proficiency · Religion: Set · Language: Kushite and Stygian · Magical affinity: Nyambe, spellcaster, sorcerer, wizard Black Tribesman, Northern, Darfari These are maniac cannibal savages of Darfar. · As Black Tribesman except: · Benefit: Bite attack: a Darfari who is grappling an opponent may bite their victim with a 1d2+1 lethal damage in addition to other unarmed damage. · Drawback: Lose primitive weapon proficiency except for primitive bludgeoning weapons · Religion: Yog, cannibal demon · Language: Darfari (illiterate) Black Tribesman, Southern Obscure African cultures of Bakalah, Zamballa, Atlaia, , Amazon, Tibu, Tombalku, Bamul, Ghanata desert, Mandiga, Suba, island, or Wadai tribes. See Road of Kings map p.76 for locations. · Skills: Survival, Perform (drums & dance) o Islander & coastal: Profession (sailor), Swim o Ghanata desert – Ride, Handle animal o All others: Hide, Move Silently · Environment: Jungle, Desert, Grassland, or Sea (islanders) · Benefit: Proficient in all primitive weapons · Drawback: -2 penalty to all fear saves · Religion: Ollum-onga, Thog, Ajujo the dark, etc. · Language (illiterate): Tibu, Tombalku, Southern Islander, Bamulah, Ghanatan, Mandingan, Suba, or Wadai · Magical affinity: Nyambe, spirit shaman, spellcaster Cimmerian The hillman race of Conan; ancestors of the Atlanteans. Clan names_____________________________________________________________________________________ · Ability: +2 str, -2 int · Skills: climb, move silent, survival; · Environment: hills or mountains · Benefit: +1 to will saves · Drawback: -2 to diplomacy and verbal bluff checks · Religion: Crom & Celtic pantheon · Language: Cimmerian · Magical affinity: None Hyborian – Common Hyborian (Aquilonia, Argos, Nemedia, Border Kingdom, Brythunia, Corinthia, Koth, Khauran, Ophir) Hyborian culture is akin to European medieval culture · Skills: any three · Environment: choose one · Benefit: None · Drawback: None · Religion: Mitra predominates, Wiccana in Brythunia; Bori in Gunderland · Language: The language of whichever Hyborian Kingdom they live in. This will be either Bossonian, Nemedian, Aquilonian, Brythunian, Ophirean, Cornthian, Kothic, or Argossean. · Magical affinity: bard, cleric, druid (Brythunian only), ranger, sorcerer, spellcaster, wizard [/QUOTE]

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