A plea to Piratecat

[BonesMcCoy]

Piratecat, you closed two threads recently that were both very interesting and enjoyable reading:

http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28997 straight talk

http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28607 two cities

Why'd you do this?

We're all big boys here and shouldn't be afraid of a little controversy. Just because it was a little hot in those threads doesn't make them flame wars. In the one, rpace was kicking Nightfall's butt big-time about not understanding a word he was saying - it was hilarious and made for good reading. I wish I could have seen it continue. And in the other thread, Gene Weigel was making some excellent points about the attitude of the industry today. Naturally nobody agreed with him and arguments ensued but that's good reading too - Gene vs. Everybody, don't you like to read that?

If you close every thread that's controversial, you'll make ENWorld feel opposed to differing points of view and it will become very bland. Please could you unlock these threads and let the conversation continue?

 

[alsih2o]

trying to overturn mod decisions is probably futile, but you have better chances approaching this in meta, the appropriate board

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

trying to overturn mod decisions is probably futile, but you have better chances approaching this in meta, the appropriate board

Not only that but cases such as this are supposed to be resolved via E-mail, IIRC.

 

[Magic Rub]

Not only that but cases such as this are supposed to be resolved via E-mail, IIRC.

It's the nice way to do it

 

[alsih2o]

Not only that but cases such as this are supposed to be resolved via E-mail, IIRC.

sir osis is quite right here, i retract my earlier statement

 

[EricNoah]

They may have been "interesting and enjoyable" to you but it wasn't to any of us moderators or administrators. So, no, they won't be re-opened.

 

[Desdichado]

There's a fine line between an interesting debate in which the majority disagrees with one guy, and needless harping of somebody who should probably just leave well enough alone. At that point, it's not debate anymore, it's just emotional wrangling.

enworld is a great place to hang out, because the atmosphere is quite friendly, the posters are generally quite mature, and the discussion is usually stimulating and interesting. I'm willing to have moderation that's a little more proactive than I'd be personally if what I get out of it is this community.

 

[ColonelHardisson]

Piratecat, you closed two threads recently that were both very interesting and enjoyable reading:

http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28997 straight talk

http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28607 two cities

Why'd you do this?

We're all big boys here and shouldn't be afraid of a little controversy. Just because it was a little hot in those threads doesn't make them flame wars. In the one, rpace was kicking Nightfall's butt big-time about not understanding a word he was saying - it was hilarious and made for good reading. I wish I could have seen it continue. And in the other thread, Gene Weigel was making some excellent points about the attitude of the industry today. Naturally nobody agreed with him and arguments ensued but that's good reading too - Gene vs. Everybody, don't you like to read that?

If you close every thread that's controversial, you'll make ENWorld feel opposed to differing points of view and it will become very bland. Please could you unlock these threads and let the conversation continue?

What you lack is the perspective that would come after watching the past couple of years of Gene's posts. Hell, I like Gene, and prefer for him to be around, even if I generally disagree with him on a few matters, but I've seen posts and threads by him continue on in a similar vein and do nothing but create a lot of hard feelings. Vigorous discourse is one thing, and Gene often provides it, but often the discourse turns into a flame war that leaves resentment in its wake.

I've said this to Gene before, so I don't feel like I'm talking behind his back (besides, I'm sure he'll show up soon anyway ).

 

[Eridanis]

Piratecat, you closed two threads recently that were both very interesting and enjoyable reading:

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If you close every thread that's controversial, you'll make ENWorld feel opposed to differing points of view and it will become very bland. Please could you unlock these threads and let the conversation continue?

Seems to me, the fact that Gene and a few others haven't been banned outright testifies to ENworld's willingness to allow controversial conversations. There's a difference, though, between honest disagreement between people who are here to talk about how they spend their free time, and uncorking gasoline and spraying it around just to bring attention to themselves. Such behavior is more appropriate to somplace like the Fighting Words forum over on the Squirrel boards
nutkinland.d20boards.net .

ENworld's boards have an ignore list function. I'll leave it at that.

 

[Nightfall]

Just because it was a little hot in those threads doesn't make them flame wars. In the one, rpace was kicking Nightfall's butt big-time about not understanding a word he was saying - it was hilarious and made for good reading.

I think what was funny, from my vantage point wasn't that I didn't understand him. It was the other way around. He was saying "Dude they are being immoral using that title" I was saying "How is it immoral when nearly EVER FRPG has SOME reference to a City of Efreeti in a place of Fire?" He just wasn't getting it.

As for Gene...well I don't know the guy, but I prefer to think of the good in people...Most of the time.