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<blockquote data-quote="Buugipopuu" data-source="post: 5747308" data-attributes="member: 41173"><p>Vasthulthus's sheet is full of errors.</p><p></p><p>Rapid Blitz modifies the Spring Attack feat, which cannot be attempted in heavy armour (the Battle Ready ability of the War portfolio doesn't mean you're not considered to be wearing armour), and the three attacks it grants must be made against different creatures. In addition, Double Standards lets you make two attacks as a standard action. Dual Strike lets you attack with both weapons as a standard action. They don't stack because they're different actions. The Speed property only comes into play on a Full Attack, so doesn't stack with Rapid Blitz, Double Standards or Dual Strike because none of them are full attacks. You don't get ten attacks as a standard action, you get two.</p><p></p><p>Your stat breakdown doesn't appear to include Dexterity or Constitution adjustments due to Virtual Size.</p><p></p><p>Disconsolate is massively under-costed. At ECL 208, a magic weapon can be worth: 10 kgp*(208/2)^2 = 108.16 Mgp</p><p></p><p>The Harm effect is Spell Level (6th) * Caster Level (156th) * 2 kgp * 10 epic premium * 1.5 multiple abilities on an item = 28.08 Mgp, however since the item's caster level is 180 at a minimum (three times enhancement bonus), this is actually 32.4 Mgp.</p><p></p><p>+60 Ghost Touch Speed costs 64*64*2000*10 = 81.92 Mgp</p><p></p><p>With those two abilities alone it's already over the cost limit.</p><p></p><p>Then, ignoring damage reduction, improving power attack damage, doubling sneak attack damage and applying it to every hit damage is equivalent to Perfect Embodiment of Destruction, Greater Power Attack, Superior Sneak Attack x3 and Underhanded, equivalent to a +67 cost modifier, costing 44.89 Mgp</p><p></p><p>Then there's the weapon itself, a Gargantuan Large Pick costs 8 times as much as a medium one, so this is only a mere 24.24 kgp, but 12.5% Orichalcum (the most a Gargantuan 130 Str creature can wield, although he might want to drop down to 1.5% Orichalcum to avoid being screwed by the graveyard of swords) costs 11.52 Mgp, octupled for a Gargantuan weapon comes to 92.16 MGp (and 24,240 gold for the weapon itself and the adamantine you're alloying it with).</p><p></p><p>The total price for said weapon, is 158.83 Mgp made from Adamantine, or 250.99 made from 12.5% Orichalcum. The former would be an appropriate weapon for an ECL 252 character, and the latter an appropriate weapon for an ECL 317 character.</p><p></p><p>Giving up an artefact for a +36 profane bonus to three stats is also dubious. Cost-wise it's 36*36*2000 (premium for bonus type other than Enhancement) * 10 epic premium * 2 slotless item (very significant, since it means it can't be disarmed, stolen or sundered) * 3 three ability scores = 155.52 Mgp</p><p></p><p>I'm going to assume that based on that breakdown, the other two artefacts are also significantly undercoated.</p><p></p><p>In the U_K system, all Epic items are artefacts, so a +12 suit of armour can't be taken as a non-artifact, and Gargantuan creatures need 145 Str to wear pure Orichalcum, which this guy doesn't have.</p><p></p><p>Actually, it seems that the Spider Queen has her slotless unsunderable items priced as if those abilities were free.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buugipopuu, post: 5747308, member: 41173"] Vasthulthus's sheet is full of errors. Rapid Blitz modifies the Spring Attack feat, which cannot be attempted in heavy armour (the Battle Ready ability of the War portfolio doesn't mean you're not considered to be wearing armour), and the three attacks it grants must be made against different creatures. In addition, Double Standards lets you make two attacks as a standard action. Dual Strike lets you attack with both weapons as a standard action. They don't stack because they're different actions. The Speed property only comes into play on a Full Attack, so doesn't stack with Rapid Blitz, Double Standards or Dual Strike because none of them are full attacks. You don't get ten attacks as a standard action, you get two. Your stat breakdown doesn't appear to include Dexterity or Constitution adjustments due to Virtual Size. Disconsolate is massively under-costed. At ECL 208, a magic weapon can be worth: 10 kgp*(208/2)^2 = 108.16 Mgp The Harm effect is Spell Level (6th) * Caster Level (156th) * 2 kgp * 10 epic premium * 1.5 multiple abilities on an item = 28.08 Mgp, however since the item's caster level is 180 at a minimum (three times enhancement bonus), this is actually 32.4 Mgp. +60 Ghost Touch Speed costs 64*64*2000*10 = 81.92 Mgp With those two abilities alone it's already over the cost limit. Then, ignoring damage reduction, improving power attack damage, doubling sneak attack damage and applying it to every hit damage is equivalent to Perfect Embodiment of Destruction, Greater Power Attack, Superior Sneak Attack x3 and Underhanded, equivalent to a +67 cost modifier, costing 44.89 Mgp Then there's the weapon itself, a Gargantuan Large Pick costs 8 times as much as a medium one, so this is only a mere 24.24 kgp, but 12.5% Orichalcum (the most a Gargantuan 130 Str creature can wield, although he might want to drop down to 1.5% Orichalcum to avoid being screwed by the graveyard of swords) costs 11.52 Mgp, octupled for a Gargantuan weapon comes to 92.16 MGp (and 24,240 gold for the weapon itself and the adamantine you're alloying it with). The total price for said weapon, is 158.83 Mgp made from Adamantine, or 250.99 made from 12.5% Orichalcum. The former would be an appropriate weapon for an ECL 252 character, and the latter an appropriate weapon for an ECL 317 character. Giving up an artefact for a +36 profane bonus to three stats is also dubious. Cost-wise it's 36*36*2000 (premium for bonus type other than Enhancement) * 10 epic premium * 2 slotless item (very significant, since it means it can't be disarmed, stolen or sundered) * 3 three ability scores = 155.52 Mgp I'm going to assume that based on that breakdown, the other two artefacts are also significantly undercoated. In the U_K system, all Epic items are artefacts, so a +12 suit of armour can't be taken as a non-artifact, and Gargantuan creatures need 145 Str to wear pure Orichalcum, which this guy doesn't have. Actually, it seems that the Spider Queen has her slotless unsunderable items priced as if those abilities were free. [/QUOTE]
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