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<blockquote data-quote="Buugipopuu" data-source="post: 5754450" data-attributes="member: 41173"><p>He should have breakdowns of AC and Initiative at the very least (breakdowns of other derived quantities is also preferable, but I haven't been doing it because that would basically be posting my entire 25-page spreadsheet into the thread).</p><p></p><p>How's he getting 16 attacks on a flurry? He's got superior flurry which brings him up to 8, another one if he's hasted. Where are the other 7 coming from? He doesn't have TWF (although that would still leave two unaccounted for), </p><p></p><p>His BAB is too high. He doesn't have Uncanny Weapon Focus, so the maximum he can get is +60 with 100 HD. In fact he should only have 55, since his first 20 levels are going to be Medium BAB at best, and probably worse with all the multiclassing he's doing.</p><p></p><p>Now for the main thing. Did you even read <em>any</em> of the prerequisites for any of the options he's taken? He doesn't qualify for about half the stuff on his sheet, and that's just the stuff I know he doesn't qualify for (some of those custom DvAs and PrCs could also be unqualified).</p><p></p><p>His Cha isn't high enough to qualify for Disheartening Dodge. It needs to be at least 40. It also has Fire Baptism as a prerequisite, which he lacks. It also won't do anything until an opponent has missed at least 23 times, since morale bonuses don't stack with each other.</p><p></p><p>His Int isn't high enough to qualify for Nescient. It also needs to be at least 40.</p><p></p><p>He doesn't have Weapon Focus or Greater Weapon Focus, which are prerequisites of Perfect Weapon Focus.</p><p></p><p>While he qualifies for Superior Charge through Nescient (or would, if he qualified for Nescient), it doesn't actually function for non-mounted characters, so doesn't do anything for him.</p><p></p><p>He doesn't qualify for Slide into the Depths because he needs three other Placid Lake manoeuvres. This one is especially blatant since you listed the prerequisites right there, and then completely ignored them.</p><p></p><p>He doesn't qualify for Uncanny Dodge as he doesn't have Dodge (which also means he doesn't qualify for any of his Enlightened Ninja levels, and also can't satisfy the Sneak Attack prerequisite by the time he needs to. He needs +35d6, and his Rogue and Ninja levels only give him 15d6, so he needs to take improved Sneak Attack 20 times before 70th level, but he only has 16 epic feat slots before 70th level, and one of those has to go on Epic Dodge, so he's 5 short). He doesn't qualify for Perfect Initiative because he doesn't have Improved Initiative. He doesn't qualify for Counter-Strike as he doesn't have True Strike, nor is his BAB 70 or more. He doesn't qualify for Oblique Strike as his Charisma is too low (it needs to be at least 70).</p><p></p><p>His Dex is 54 points too high. Legendary Dexterity does not double bonuses granted by items and other temporary modifiers.</p><p></p><p>His Withering damages are ten times what they should be.</p><p></p><p>A +48 enhancement to unarmed attack and damage ability is already too expensive for the item its on, even without the price of Disheartening Dodge. Necklaces of Natural Attacks are priced at 6000*bonus squared, not 2000*bonus squared, because it can potentially apply to several weapons.</p><p></p><p>Items cannot grant odd-numbered enhancement bonuses to ability scores, and Morale bonuses to AC cost 2500*bonus squared, not 2000, so that item is also too valuable (even before you add a multiple abilities on one item premium, or deal with the fact that it's not really in the proper body slot)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buugipopuu, post: 5754450, member: 41173"] He should have breakdowns of AC and Initiative at the very least (breakdowns of other derived quantities is also preferable, but I haven't been doing it because that would basically be posting my entire 25-page spreadsheet into the thread). How's he getting 16 attacks on a flurry? He's got superior flurry which brings him up to 8, another one if he's hasted. Where are the other 7 coming from? He doesn't have TWF (although that would still leave two unaccounted for), His BAB is too high. He doesn't have Uncanny Weapon Focus, so the maximum he can get is +60 with 100 HD. In fact he should only have 55, since his first 20 levels are going to be Medium BAB at best, and probably worse with all the multiclassing he's doing. Now for the main thing. Did you even read [i]any[/i] of the prerequisites for any of the options he's taken? He doesn't qualify for about half the stuff on his sheet, and that's just the stuff I know he doesn't qualify for (some of those custom DvAs and PrCs could also be unqualified). His Cha isn't high enough to qualify for Disheartening Dodge. It needs to be at least 40. It also has Fire Baptism as a prerequisite, which he lacks. It also won't do anything until an opponent has missed at least 23 times, since morale bonuses don't stack with each other. His Int isn't high enough to qualify for Nescient. It also needs to be at least 40. He doesn't have Weapon Focus or Greater Weapon Focus, which are prerequisites of Perfect Weapon Focus. While he qualifies for Superior Charge through Nescient (or would, if he qualified for Nescient), it doesn't actually function for non-mounted characters, so doesn't do anything for him. He doesn't qualify for Slide into the Depths because he needs three other Placid Lake manoeuvres. This one is especially blatant since you listed the prerequisites right there, and then completely ignored them. He doesn't qualify for Uncanny Dodge as he doesn't have Dodge (which also means he doesn't qualify for any of his Enlightened Ninja levels, and also can't satisfy the Sneak Attack prerequisite by the time he needs to. He needs +35d6, and his Rogue and Ninja levels only give him 15d6, so he needs to take improved Sneak Attack 20 times before 70th level, but he only has 16 epic feat slots before 70th level, and one of those has to go on Epic Dodge, so he's 5 short). He doesn't qualify for Perfect Initiative because he doesn't have Improved Initiative. He doesn't qualify for Counter-Strike as he doesn't have True Strike, nor is his BAB 70 or more. He doesn't qualify for Oblique Strike as his Charisma is too low (it needs to be at least 70). His Dex is 54 points too high. Legendary Dexterity does not double bonuses granted by items and other temporary modifiers. His Withering damages are ten times what they should be. A +48 enhancement to unarmed attack and damage ability is already too expensive for the item its on, even without the price of Disheartening Dodge. Necklaces of Natural Attacks are priced at 6000*bonus squared, not 2000*bonus squared, because it can potentially apply to several weapons. Items cannot grant odd-numbered enhancement bonuses to ability scores, and Morale bonuses to AC cost 2500*bonus squared, not 2000, so that item is also too valuable (even before you add a multiple abilities on one item premium, or deal with the fact that it's not really in the proper body slot) [/QUOTE]
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