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<blockquote data-quote="Buugipopuu" data-source="post: 5767573" data-attributes="member: 41173"><p>Pathfinder characters are not compatible with 3.5 characters. Or 3.5 monsters, for that matter. ECL 20 in Pathfinder generally means a considerably stronger character than ECL 20 in 3.5. At Epic in Pathfinder, BAB and Saves increase at the pre-epic rate which further breaks compatibility. Casters are given Improved Spell Capacity every other level for free, and more bonus spell slots on levels which they don't get ISC, which is insane (as that's a progression that's better than the AMC/ISC progression I noted as being completely broken earlier in this thread). If you want to rewrite the IH and the ELH for Pathfinder, then go ahead. Note that the IH considers being able to critically hit Undead 100% of the time a Cosmic ability (with an Epic feat and DvA as prerequisites), while all Pathfinder characters get it for free. And Pre-Epic BAB progression is a Divine that all Pathfinder characters get for free. Supreme Toughness is also handed out to all Pathfinder characters for free. And they get 50% more feats than 3.5 characters. I'm not entirely sure whether the benefits of being a god are totally worth their LA in the IH (it's true most of the time, but with weak portfolios, I'm unsure), but with more powerful base classes and feats every other level, the IH deity templates are definitely not worth their LA, and would need to be buffed. This opens a whole new problem with balancing.</p><p></p><p>This isn't even getting into the huge quantity of non-OGL material that would need to be converted to Pathfinder. Between all the characters so far used, you'd be hard pressed to find a splatbook printed by WotC that doesn't have material in this thread.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buugipopuu, post: 5767573, member: 41173"] Pathfinder characters are not compatible with 3.5 characters. Or 3.5 monsters, for that matter. ECL 20 in Pathfinder generally means a considerably stronger character than ECL 20 in 3.5. At Epic in Pathfinder, BAB and Saves increase at the pre-epic rate which further breaks compatibility. Casters are given Improved Spell Capacity every other level for free, and more bonus spell slots on levels which they don't get ISC, which is insane (as that's a progression that's better than the AMC/ISC progression I noted as being completely broken earlier in this thread). If you want to rewrite the IH and the ELH for Pathfinder, then go ahead. Note that the IH considers being able to critically hit Undead 100% of the time a Cosmic ability (with an Epic feat and DvA as prerequisites), while all Pathfinder characters get it for free. And Pre-Epic BAB progression is a Divine that all Pathfinder characters get for free. Supreme Toughness is also handed out to all Pathfinder characters for free. And they get 50% more feats than 3.5 characters. I'm not entirely sure whether the benefits of being a god are totally worth their LA in the IH (it's true most of the time, but with weak portfolios, I'm unsure), but with more powerful base classes and feats every other level, the IH deity templates are definitely not worth their LA, and would need to be buffed. This opens a whole new problem with balancing. This isn't even getting into the huge quantity of non-OGL material that would need to be converted to Pathfinder. Between all the characters so far used, you'd be hard pressed to find a splatbook printed by WotC that doesn't have material in this thread. [/QUOTE]
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