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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 6704483" data-attributes="member: 45197">Hiya!  I'm not for a Warlord "remake" in 5e. Now that everyone knows where I stand on that...  IF someone was to do a write up of a "Warlord", my biggest hang-ups with the class is that, at it's core, it feels like the designers are saying "Fighters are master at fighting, battle and war!...well, sort of. The actually don't really know anything about tactics or maneuvers or, uh, fighting tricks...Warlords do because Warlords are the only ones who can use tactics, maneuvers and other fighting-tricks to 'fight'." That's how it feels to me. Why does a Warlord get to be able to learn/use some tactic to force some creature to 'shift' to the left when a Fighter, Barbarian, Monk, or virtually *anyone* else can't? If we are talking "tactics and maneuvers", it should be something *everyone* should be able to do.  So, a "warlord", IMHO, should come along with an optional set of combat rules for such "tactics" that anyone can attempt (like anyone can attempt to Shove, Grapple or Trip...these aren't "class specific", and shouldn't be). Once those were implemented into the core rules, a Warlord could have abilities that simply made it 'better' at doing those. I'd remove any "damage/combat" oriented abilities that directly involve the Warlord.... he isn't trained to go toe-to-toe with enemies (that's what a Fighter, Cleric or Barbarian is for), he's trained to sit on his horse at the top of a hill and direct the armies under his command. Intelligence and Wisdom (or maybe Charisma) should be his two 'stats' (for Saves), his HD should be d8, extra attacks as a Bard. No spells or "magic powers" (like "Can cast Mage Armor 1/day"). Everything should be mundane (exceptions could be argued for high... 14+... level) and focused on using intellect and experience to direct others...not himself.Something like that I could get behind. Alas, I don't think many Warlord fans are going for that sort of interpretation.^_^Paul L. Ming</blockquote>

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