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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6705406" data-attributes="member: 22779">How fast is your paladin blowing through smites that he's only getting enough for one fight?&nbsp; I know paladins don't get a lot of spells, but, they get more than that surely?@Iamabanana - hey, I'm just reporting what's going on.&nbsp; It takes my fighter four attacks just to equal one round from the paladin.&nbsp; The ranger also consistently out damages me - by far now that he's a ranger/fighter and getting action surge.&nbsp; I really don't think fighters are damage kings.&nbsp; I'm frankly pretty disappointed with how the fighter works to be honest.&nbsp; I shouldn't have to hit up charop boards just to make my fighter be in the same league as non-optimized characters.&nbsp; I mean, good grief, the paladin is not remotely optimised.&nbsp; The sorcerer isn't exactly winning any optimisation prizes either - a feat to make him do more damage with fire spells is about it.&nbsp; We're not talking about having to compete with characters that are dipping multiple classes, using order made magic items.&nbsp; We're talking about my fighter doing the least damage of EVERY character.&nbsp; By a whole lot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6705406, member: 22779"] How fast is your paladin blowing through smites that he's only getting enough for one fight? I know paladins don't get a lot of spells, but, they get more than that surely? @Iamabanana - hey, I'm just reporting what's going on. It takes my fighter four attacks just to equal one round from the paladin. The ranger also consistently out damages me - by far now that he's a ranger/fighter and getting action surge. I really don't think fighters are damage kings. I'm frankly pretty disappointed with how the fighter works to be honest. I shouldn't have to hit up charop boards just to make my fighter be in the same league as non-optimized characters. I mean, good grief, the paladin is not remotely optimised. The sorcerer isn't exactly winning any optimisation prizes either - a feat to make him do more damage with fire spells is about it. We're not talking about having to compete with characters that are dipping multiple classes, using order made magic items. We're talking about my fighter doing the least damage of EVERY character. By a whole lot. [/QUOTE]

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