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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6708609" data-attributes="member: 2067">Your confusion is totally understandable - the particular fighter in question in [MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION] 's examples is using a homebrew subclass that trades the Champion's extended crit for a 1/rest advantage on all melee attacks for a round:[sblock]Knight of Solamnia (Fighter sub-class)Strength in HonorAt 3rd level, when a fighter chooses this path, he gains the ability to use the focus and knowledge gained from the Oath and the Measure and his honorable path to strengthen his resolve. As a bonus action, until the end of his next turn, the Knight has advantage on all Strength checks and Strength Saving Throws, as well as advantage on all Melee Attacks. He cannot use this ability until he has a short or long rest. At 7th level, he can do this twice before taking a short or long rest, and at 15th level, he can use it 3 times before taking a short or long rest.Honorable WillAt 7th level, the Knight gains advantage on any saving throw to resist Charm or Compulsion effects due to his devotion to Honor and the Oath and the Measure.Aura of CourageAt 10th level, the Knight becomes immune to all fear effects. In addition, all allies within 10 feet of the Knight gain advantage on any saving throw to resist fear effects.Heroic InitiativeAt 15th level, the Knight has advantage on initiative rolls..Crown of KnighthoodAt 18th level, the Knight gains advantage on all saving throws. In addition, he can focus on his devotion to Honor and receive resistance to piercing, bludgeoning and slashing damage for one minute. He can use this ability a number of times per day equal to his Strength modifier.[/sblock]He's not a battlemaster. Yeah, that's fair. The small edge probably isn't clearly noticeable. I certainly trust [MENTION=6787650]Hemlock[/MENTION] 's example of what high damage output REALLY looks like over my own back-of-envelope calculations. My major intent here is to show that the feeling of being "overshadowed" isn't coming from the class's performance. That the complaint of "I need FOUR ATTACKS to match the output of a smite!" isn't a point in favor of the fighter being inadequate.</blockquote>

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