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A WOTC 5e Warlord That Would Be Acceptable To Skeptics
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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6709813" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>The thing is KM, my point is, that even with that second short rest, or even a third, the BM fighter which blows ALL his dice on damage is just equal to the paladin.</p><p></p><p>Shouldn't the combat king be doing more damage?  How is a fighter the combat king when other characters do the same damage?  After all, isn't the paladin supposed to be trading damage for healing, detection powers, saving throw buffing AND his CD power?  Shouldn't a fighter and a paladin, using the same weapons, see the fighter doing considerably more damage?  Remember, the only reason the fighter in my example was even close to the paladin is because he blew every single superiority die on damage.  A Champion is SOL here.  He's not even in the same ballpark.  </p><p></p><p>No matter how you slice it, my character is maxed out doing 13 points of damage per attack.  He simply cannot do any more than that.  The paladin does exactly the same damage - 13 points per hit, PLUS a potential extra 17d8 dice of damage.  My four, or even six extra attacks can't come close to matching that, even with me hitting more often.  Three short rests gives me 8 more attacks.  A max damage 104 damage.  I cannot do more damage than that.  The paladin gets 17d8 bonus damage - not counting any bonuses from Channel Divinity.  That's a max of 153 points.  The paladin is out damaging my BEST damage by 50%.  If I was a Battlemaster, I could just about equal his damage.  Maybe beat it by a bit.</p><p></p><p>Again, how is a fighter the combat master?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6709813, member: 22779"] The thing is KM, my point is, that even with that second short rest, or even a third, the BM fighter which blows ALL his dice on damage is just equal to the paladin. Shouldn't the combat king be doing more damage? How is a fighter the combat king when other characters do the same damage? After all, isn't the paladin supposed to be trading damage for healing, detection powers, saving throw buffing AND his CD power? Shouldn't a fighter and a paladin, using the same weapons, see the fighter doing considerably more damage? Remember, the only reason the fighter in my example was even close to the paladin is because he blew every single superiority die on damage. A Champion is SOL here. He's not even in the same ballpark. No matter how you slice it, my character is maxed out doing 13 points of damage per attack. He simply cannot do any more than that. The paladin does exactly the same damage - 13 points per hit, PLUS a potential extra 17d8 dice of damage. My four, or even six extra attacks can't come close to matching that, even with me hitting more often. Three short rests gives me 8 more attacks. A max damage 104 damage. I cannot do more damage than that. The paladin gets 17d8 bonus damage - not counting any bonuses from Channel Divinity. That's a max of 153 points. The paladin is out damaging my BEST damage by 50%. If I was a Battlemaster, I could just about equal his damage. Maybe beat it by a bit. Again, how is a fighter the combat master? [/QUOTE]
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