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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mellored" data-source="post: 6709962" data-attributes="member: 6801209">And here's the error i was talking about.  Their base damage is NOT the same, unless your talking below level 6.i.e. at level 6, the fighter can have 20 Str, while the paladin only has 18 (and a nice aura).1d8+5 * 60% = 5.7 damage1d8+4 * 55% = 4.675Fighter does 20% more damage.The DMG says to have 2 short rests per day.And yes, short days favor those with 1/day features.Long days favor those who have more at-will powers.Your selling the maneuvers short.Trip attack, adds damage, AND the possibility of advantage on following attacks.Or riposte, which adds an reaction attack, and damage (if it hits).</blockquote>