Aasimar are now . . . Devas.

[I'm A Banana]

I Understand the whole spellplague thing and the changes based on the passage of time, but why totally change all the lore?
Aasimar are Aasimar totally seperate from Deva, unless the ancestor that allowed for the Aasimar was a Deva.
Man this is so dumb.

Name and lore changes probably should be expected by this point. 4e doesn't give a twig about what's come before with regards to that, and this has been shown consistently.

Here's the crux of my issue: Making good-aligned protagonists isn't less cool then evil ones. Nor is it difficult to make them cool. Again, what I'm seeing is this throwback from the 90's, where only GRIM ANTI-HEROES are cool. And while yes, Wolverine is mighty popular, here's the problem: So was Disaster Movie.

Obviously, one or more of the 4e designers has a boner for goth stereotypes and thinks it'll appeal to today's My Chemical Romance scenesters. They would've made the Shadar-Kai a PC race if they could.

 

[Nifft]

Y'know, "hoary heights".

"Hoary" just means "grey or white" in that context. So "hoary heights" would be a poetic way of saying "up in the snowy part".

(In general, it means grey or white due to age.)

Cheers, -- N

 

[El Mahdi]

I was reading through this thread and I noticed this post. FYI, Sanskrit is a Indo-European language.

Oops. Okay. I still think Ari was right though that those particular words didn't have direct roots. The religious concepts got shared a bit from Zoroastiranism to Hinduism (and vice-versa) and thereby influenced western religious traditions, but those words didn't link.

 

[Shroomy]

Oops. Okay. I still think Ari was right though that those particular words didn't have direct roots. The religious concepts got shared a bit from Zoroastiranism to Hinduism (and vice-versa) and thereby influenced western religious traditions, but those words didn't link.

He's correct, devil and deva don't have direct roots. In fact, deva is a descendent of the same word that gave us the Latin deus.

 

[cangrejoide]

Meh, every edition has brought name changes.

This is yet another pointless nerdraged theme to rant to.

I wonder what tomorrow will bring.

 

[Wormwood]

I wonder what tomorrow will bring.

I shudder to think.

 

[Shroomy]

Well, WoTC has got to be close to running out of planar monsters/races to change or get rid of, so hopefully, this will subside.

 

[Ravilah]

I'd just like to thank Shroomy for pointing out the Indo-European/Sanskrit thing. As a teacher of English and fan of language history, I'm glad there are others out there interested in the same esoteric disciplines.

Oh, and P.S.
"Devas" makes me think of "divas" (and therefore Aretha Franklin and Diana Ross) no matter how much I remind myself how it is properly pronounced. All my years of studying world religions can do nothing against it. So I'll need to come up with another name.

 

[mattdm]

"Devas" makes me think of "divas" (and therefore Aretha Franklin and Diana Ross) no matter how much I remind myself how it is properly pronounced. All my years of studying world religions can do nothing against it. So I'll need to come up with another name.

Go here: Arya Sanghata Sutra - How to Pronounce the Sanskrit Names in the Sanghata and put the audio clip on loop until it drives you slightly crazy.

 

[Sonny]

Go here: Arya Sanghata Sutra - How to Pronounce the Sanskrit Names in the Sanghata and put the audio clip on loop until it drives you slightly crazy.

Can't he just listen to Across the Universe a whole lot? It's The Beatles, so it'll still be awesome even after a thousand playbacks.