Aasimar are now . . . Devas.

[mach1.9pants]

Eie

 

[FireLance]

I wonder what tomorrow will bring.

WotC re-invents the modrons as transforming robots led by Optimus, the One and the Prime.

 

[proto128]

WotC re-invents the modrons as transforming robots led by Optimus, the One and the Prime.

Not seeing a problem here.

 

[Keefe the Thief]

Obviously, one or more of the 4e designers has a boner for goth stereotypes and thinks it'll appeal to today's My Chemical Romance scenesters. They would've made the Shadar-Kai a PC race if they could.

Ha! I knew, when we´re talking about "lore changes i don´t like", the good old "they used gothy things - nooo!" stuff gets pulled out of the cabinet. Yes, yes i know: Prof. Cirno used the idiotic "gothemo" combination, but he´s on my ignore list and doesn´t count. Hey, perhaps i should make myself a sig or banner like this:

"If you think there is anything gothy in the corebooks, you don´t know anything about goth. But i think you knew this already."

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Uhm... sorry to nitpick, but there is no word like "hoar" in German. The word for "high" is "hoch" and for "heights" is "Höhen"!

Cheers, LT

Hochling? Hoehenling?

 

[WhatGravitas]

Hochling? Hoehenling?

Engling... you know, like in Engel, just a bit contracted! Erm... on a second thought, I will keep favouring Deva!

Cheers, LT.

 

[Klaus]

Hochling? Hoehenling?

HOCHling! That's what I chose!

Curse my faulty memory chips!

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

HOCHling! That's what I chose!

Curse my faulty memory chips!

Hochling is difficult to pronounce in English (How would you do it?), and it might sound "hockling", which more sounds like nightmare creature. I think Jürgen has a similar creature in the Arcana Wiki. The German world for nightmare "Alptraum" is related to "Alpdruck" and stands for some kind of demon/devil sitting on your chest, causing you to dream badly and making it harder to breathe. (Which is why if you wake up after a nightmare, you breathe heavily). It is also related to Alb -> Elb -> Elf. I suppose the various etymologies of these races is where Terry Pratchett took the image of his Discworld Elves which only look nice.

So, it might not be such a good idea after all.

Would anyone notice if you just said "Engel"? (g spoken like in "hague" not like in "generic").

 

[Obryn]

Devas works for them. Old-school devas were just "tanar'ri-ized angels," anyway, so making those protector spirits of old actual Angels and giving these guys the name is a good thing.

Huh? They showed up in 1e's MM2 along with Solars and Planetars.

Pre-tanar'ri-ization.

-O

 

[Klaus]

Hochling is difficult to pronounce in English (How would you do it?), and it might sound "hockling", which more sounds like nightmare creature. I think Jürgen has a similar creature in the Arcana Wiki. The German world for nightmare "Alptraum" is related to "Alpdruck" and stands for some kind of demon/devil sitting on your chest, causing you to dream badly and making it harder to breathe. (Which is why if you wake up after a nightmare, you breathe heavily). It is also related to Alb -> Elb -> Elf. I suppose the various etymologies of these races is where Terry Pratchett took the image of his Discworld Elves which only look nice.

So, it might not be such a good idea after all.

Would anyone notice if you just said "Engel"? (g spoken like in "hague" not like in "generic").

I'm pronouncing it "hoh-ling". But anyway, it's now a moo point.

Engel I don't mind, but in Portuguese it sounds like "enguia", which is the word for "eel".

I'm still partial to dioskouri (sons of Zeus).