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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crit" data-source="post: 8130737" data-attributes="member: 7027023">Hi! I made an account because I wanted to explain a feature, pertaining to that spell-slot sorcery-point upcasting thing like [USER=7027005]@Shadowedeyes[/USER] did."When you cast any spell of 1st level or higher from your Psionic Spells feature, you can cast it by expending a spell slot as normal or by spending a numberof sorcery points equal to the spell’s level. If you cast the spell using sorcery points, it requires no verbal or somatic components, and it requires nomaterial components, unless they are consumed."This is the rule as written in Tasha's. "The spell's level" means the level of the spell itself, as they are when you get them. For example- "detect thoughts" is a second level spell, and always is. You can cast it with a higher spell slot, yes, but it's still a level two spell. It's only listed in its base form in the Aberrant Mind's spell list, so you can ONLY cast it at lvl 2 for 2 sorcery points because that's what AM's spell list gives you. Lvl 3 Detect Thoughts is NOT in your psionic spell list, so you can't use sorcery points for it. If you want to do something different than that, then you'd have to use spell slots. In other words- no lvl 8 spells for 8 points. This is still a really good feature, but it's not overpowered. I like that you can save 2 sorcery points by using Psionic Sorcery instead of a 5th spell slot, it's cool. It's like I get a lvl 1 slot back just from casting a lvl 5. To clarify for others, any spell cast with Psionic Sorcery automatically has no verbal or somatic components. For all intents and purposes, you cast a spell at discount AND get a free meta magic effect without actually using Subtle Spell. That's where [USER=7019463]@Hohige[/USER] is coming from in that regard. It's also cool and helpful, but it doesn't revolutionize stealth casting or whatever. I think Aberrant Mind has potential to be the Sorcerer subclass that can use meta magic and cast spells the most, through saving sorcery points on frequently cast spells  in the Psionic Sorcery table. With that said, it's not THAT much more, especially to the point that you blow 8 points in 3 turns. The subclass's strength is efficient and sustainable casting- you could be an active caster throughout a whole adventuring day and still have resources by the end. Of course, you could also try and spend all of your points as fast as you can, but that's kind of wasting the class' main advantage. An Aberrant Mind sorcerer, especially with Metamagic Adept, has a huge magic tool belt with which to work from. In theory, you'd have the most access to reaction spells like Shield and Absorb Elements amongst all casters across an adventure, or just use meta magic 15% more than others. It's sustainable, not invincible. I adore the subclass, but it's not appropriate to treat it like something it's not. Personally, I made an Aberrant Mind Githyanki character with Shadow touched, and the amount of semi-free spells you can get is extremely fun. You really always have something to use between long rests, and this is where this subclass shines. (It's also fun because all of the spells have a similar enough theme for a telekinetic, but whatever). [USER=7019463]@Hohige[/USER] , I think your Aberrant Mind build would probably be more successful if you didn't waste time and resources on hiding. It has tactical advantage 1 on 1 (compared to a regular sorcerer build) with its effective extra meta magic and low-level spell slots, so get out of the semi-effective scouting shadows and just empower whichever low damage rolls you get.</blockquote>

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