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Aberrant Mind's Psionic Sorcery is officially the most powerful feature.
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<blockquote data-quote="Crit" data-source="post: 8132425" data-attributes="member: 7027023"><p>Subtle Spell means no verbal or somatic components on the end of the caster, not "not noticed by the recipient." Similarly, you don't SEE yourself getting poisoned, but you'll sure FEEL it. It doesn't matter if it's your brain or your kidneys, damage has a real effect if it's tanking HP. If someone takes 2d8 psychic damage, they know they got hit by a spell, they just didn't hear a voice cast it or see you move to do it. All it takes is one investigation or perception check, now that they're looking for you, before the ruse is up. </p><p></p><p>If I subtle cast magic missile, the missiles would be visible. Unless a spell specifically states that there's some level of invisibility to it, it's safe to assume there's some visual component or it's up to the DM to decide how the magic got from A to B, and if it's visible. I'd say Suggestion isn't, but a damaging spell like Mind Spike I'd say yeah.</p><p></p><p>Mind Spike doesn't say anything that would imply there's something secretive about the spell itself- I'd argue the opposite, frankly. They might not know they're being tracked, especially if they didn't catch the verbal or somatic cues, but they took a hit all the same. If someone makes a WIS save, that implies that they're responding to the damaging event in some way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crit, post: 8132425, member: 7027023"] Subtle Spell means no verbal or somatic components on the end of the caster, not "not noticed by the recipient." Similarly, you don't SEE yourself getting poisoned, but you'll sure FEEL it. It doesn't matter if it's your brain or your kidneys, damage has a real effect if it's tanking HP. If someone takes 2d8 psychic damage, they know they got hit by a spell, they just didn't hear a voice cast it or see you move to do it. All it takes is one investigation or perception check, now that they're looking for you, before the ruse is up. If I subtle cast magic missile, the missiles would be visible. Unless a spell specifically states that there's some level of invisibility to it, it's safe to assume there's some visual component or it's up to the DM to decide how the magic got from A to B, and if it's visible. I'd say Suggestion isn't, but a damaging spell like Mind Spike I'd say yeah. Mind Spike doesn't say anything that would imply there's something secretive about the spell itself- I'd argue the opposite, frankly. They might not know they're being tracked, especially if they didn't catch the verbal or somatic cues, but they took a hit all the same. If someone makes a WIS save, that implies that they're responding to the damaging event in some way. [/QUOTE]
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