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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 9060897" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>Apologies for my poor choice of words. By "asks the question the wrong way around", I meant something like "puts the cart before the horse". Ability checks are a tool for resolving certain action declarations (as your second option alludes to) which must necessarily be made before an ability check is called for to resolve them. I believe that focusing on a presupposed ability check rather than an action declaration which may or may not give rise to one invites responses like some repeated in this thread along the lines of "If there's going to be a check anyway, then why make the players say extra stuff/magic words/etc.?" The problem with those responses is they presuppose a check is going to happen, which is exactly how the poll is presented.</p></blockquote><p></p>