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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 3231603" data-attributes="member: 7808">AC easily rises faster that to-hit bonuses at low levels you say?  Let's see...Level 5 Elven Wizard:BAB: +2Dex: +5Point Blank Shot: +1Weapon Focus (Crossbow): +1Greater Magic Weapon: +2Cat's Grace: +2Invisibility: +2Heroism: +2True Strike: +20Total to-hit bonus: 37This puts me within striking range of your AC 56 character using no items other than a mundane crossbow, using only spells that the character can cast themselves, and using only the core books.  It is also about a hundred times "easier" than any of the min-maxed AC builds I've seen posted in this thread.  I'm sure it can be optimized to give a much higher to-hit bonus than shown here using supplemental magic items and spells.  Finally, note that using Invisivibility means that the target will be denied their Dex bonus to AC, so the true AC will not be 56 (you can also substitute a ray spell to make the attack a touch attack and deny the target an even larger chunk of AC, but you would lose the bonus from GMW.  WF (crossbow) could be replaced with WF (ray).)Honestly, though, min-maxing a character to hit another min-maxed character means nothing in regard to the original statement that to-hit bonuses outstrip AC bonuses in general play.  Looking at outliers is generally the worst way possible to get an idea of a numeric trend.</blockquote>