Accountability

[Wraith Form]

Oh, we are -- Teflon Billy style! Yee haw! *shoots pistols in the air like Yosemite Sam*

LOL...good ole T-Billy! At least we can laugh at (with?) him!

 

[Teflon Billy]

LOL...good ole T-Billy! At least we can laugh at (with?) him!

At

 

[Wraith Form]

At

(snicker) Well, *we* knew that. (I mean, god, have you seen that pic he's sportin'? Egads!)

At least you know your place..!

(Ha ha ha....naaah, just playin', TB--LUUUUUUUH YA!)

 

[Darrin Drader]

Not trying to make any point...just saying is all. I am the "self-appoinetd board cut-up" (according to Darrin), after all.

Pot <---> Kettle






But then, I did chip in to keep the site open.

 

[alsih2o]

to those who want more accountability-

do you ask for this from your plumber? when you pay a man to fix a toilet do you ask to see his books?

what about when you go to see a play? do you buy a ticket and then suggest you would feel better if you were given the inside scoop on the management of that theater?

i could be very wrong, but i see little difference.

there is a service here. for free! and if you choose to help support it that is great, but that doesn't give anyone the right to any info any more than just perusing the site.

i just keep thinking of the only thing i know of on the web that is pay-per-view, and that is porn. i wonder if people send in their money to boobie sites and then post saying "i would feel a lot better if i could get a look at the books. after all, i pay for this."

 

[Old Fezziwig]

For goodness' sake, man! When I tell you about my top-secret supervillain plans, I don't expect you to immediately go and tell everyone!

http://www.villainsupply.com

I'm just saying, is all.

Best,
tKL

 

[Darrin Drader]

I'm not saying that I want to know how every dime is spent. The only thing I want to know is that the money will be used to keep the community around as long as possible. That's it. And I accept the assurances of Morrus, Eric, and everyone else.

On the other hand, I might feel that this trust is misplaced if the site is in dire need of funding again in 6 months. If the information we've been given is more or less correct, even after taxes, the server upgrade, the back amount owed and even the debts, there should be enough in the pot now to keep the site going for a year. Hopefully add to that some banner advertisements and an open donation account, and such a dire need for money might not ever arise again.

But we'll see. I look at it as paying for the amount of use I get out of the site. I wouldn't be here if I didn't enjoy the community to some extent, and I will be willing to donate again should the need arise, assuming this fund raising drive is put to good use.

 

[BSF]

Cross-posting from a different thread - http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=67554&page=1&pp=25

OK, reading through another thread, I realized I have used a term that is generally used in one sense, though others are applicable. The term is: invest.

Oftentimes, we hear invest used in reference to investing in a company. Purchasing a share in the company so that you can receive financial benefit from it. Usually, shareholders have some measure of control over how the company is then run.

When I say that I feel like this is an investment, this is not what I mean.

What I mean is that I spend a fair amount of time here, I suck up my share of bandwidth. And I have been doing that on the generosity of others. On one level, I have always been conscious of that. And it is easy to keep saying, “I’ll be a Community Supporter next month.” It took the unfortunate occurrence of getting it right down to the line before the site is shut down for me to get off my butt and do it.

It is surprising how little time it took me to make that decision. I saw Morrus’ announcement, noticed that it has single digit views, opened it up, did some work, read it and just sat there for a few seconds thinking “But, I was going to become a supporter, what happened?” It took me a few moments to realize that I cared enough to stop sitting on the bench. By the time I returned to the main thread, there was already a thread posted asking how we could help. The rest just keeps getting better. But, back to my point.

I expect that Morrus will have enough cash flow for the site to sleep easy. I expect that he will be able to treat this as a hobby and have fun. I do not expect him to tell us everything that he is going to do with the money.

When I say I want to invest in EN World, I am trying to say that I want to do whatever I can to help avoid getting to this point again in the future. I want to help out. I would like to offer ideas so that other people can take them apart and try to find any value in them. I use these boards a lot and I feel like I can give back to the community a little more than I do already. Invest is probably not the correct word to use. Especially since it is emotionally charged in economic terms. For my word choice, I apologize for any misunderstanding. But, for my intent, I really do want to know if there is any way that I can help in the future.

Thanks for hearing me out!

 

[Wraith Form]

There are some serious questions here that NEED to be asked, and while I think it's wonderful that many of the members of this board are generous to a fault, I feel that it is high time that Morrus stopped being so reserved and secretive and was more forthcoming about where the money comes from, and where it goes to.

Well, DUUUUUHH, it goes to support his meth habit, of course.

The English have a word for you: you're a git. I'm sure Morrus would be happy to explain not only what that means, but how it's completely appropriate for you.

I mostly lurk around these boards (or make rude and snide posts for no apparent good reason), but I gave Morrus my money. You know what? I don't ask him to explain a damn thing of what it goes to. New servers, new hosts, new f*ckin' crack pipe, I don't ask him to break it down for me. I gave him that money, and I don't look back. The site lives. I can once again read game product reviews, and save money on the crap ones, and blow money on the good ones. I never would have given him that money if I didn't have a strong sense that he's trustworthy.

Am I disappointed that he got into financial trouble? Well, yeah. But we managed to scrape together to pull his (no, actually: this site's) fat outta the fire. That's all that ultimately matters. Morrus knows that, if perchance he did run off to Waikiki with our donations, eventually truth will out and he'll lose a lot of support. It's in his best interest to be reliable (which--aside from not paying Cyberstreet--he's been so far).

 

[Angcuru]

Don't worry, be happy. *feels sudden urge to adopt a 3-legged kitten with one bad eye*