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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Stew" data-source="post: 6142797" data-attributes="member: 23484"><p>Let me tell you a sad tale.</p><p></p><p>Steve was a forest gnome. He wanted to be a cleric and worship Garl Glittergold. This is a shame, because this washes out the racial benefit of his Natural Illusionist ability -- there are no rules for substation of a cantrip already granted (though admittedly it is a natural enough house rule). Also, weirdly, he will be able to cast illusions both with Intelligence as the magic ability (as Forest gnomes) and with Wisdom (as clerics). </p><p></p><p>This depresses the Steve the gnome, who instead decide to become a wizard, because he has always been told that gnomes are great illusionists. The frustration continues for him, sadly, since the school of Illusion grants them the ability to cast an illusion cantrip, which (since there is only one?) he can already do. </p><p></p><p>Because this affects the natural gnome builds for two of the four base classes, I suggest that the change should occur with the racial description. Perhaps Natural Illusionist should instead offer a bonus to the DCs of all illusion spells. Not everyone will benefit from this, granted but it does let the forest gnome worship his god or pursue his most natural wizardly aptitude without penalty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kobold Stew, post: 6142797, member: 23484"] Let me tell you a sad tale. Steve was a forest gnome. He wanted to be a cleric and worship Garl Glittergold. This is a shame, because this washes out the racial benefit of his Natural Illusionist ability -- there are no rules for substation of a cantrip already granted (though admittedly it is a natural enough house rule). Also, weirdly, he will be able to cast illusions both with Intelligence as the magic ability (as Forest gnomes) and with Wisdom (as clerics). This depresses the Steve the gnome, who instead decide to become a wizard, because he has always been told that gnomes are great illusionists. The frustration continues for him, sadly, since the school of Illusion grants them the ability to cast an illusion cantrip, which (since there is only one?) he can already do. Because this affects the natural gnome builds for two of the four base classes, I suggest that the change should occur with the racial description. Perhaps Natural Illusionist should instead offer a bonus to the DCs of all illusion spells. Not everyone will benefit from this, granted but it does let the forest gnome worship his god or pursue his most natural wizardly aptitude without penalty. [/QUOTE]
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