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<blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 6323641" data-attributes="member: 6698278">But what percentage of the people would have to violently hate a mechanic to get them to offer another option that would take them all of half an hour to write?&nbsp; They actually did change Second Wind to temp hit points.&nbsp; Then after the INTERNAL playtesters said they liked normal better they switched it back.&nbsp; So the surveys were complaining about Second Wind already that they felt motivated to try a different approach.&nbsp;&nbsp; The devs are likely just clueless when it comes to understanding the real issue.&nbsp; They've demonstrated on other issues like dissociative mechanics that they can take two out and put two in in the same motion.&nbsp; They just don't understand it fully.&nbsp; Any healing that is not of magical origin that results in a recovery rate faster than normal sleeping (which is either 1hp/day or maybe level/day for &quot;liberals on the issue&quot; like myself) is problematic.&nbsp;&nbsp; They actually got rid of the Warlord supposedly as a response to this feeling on hit points.&nbsp;&nbsp; Give me a clean fighter with at least an option for my playstyle and I'd be happy if there were twenty warlord variants.&nbsp;&nbsp; I would ban them all in my game but the overall game is not lacking even a simple core 4 fighter and rogue with options for my approach.&nbsp;&nbsp; To be honest, I never need more than the core 4.&nbsp; Other than Paladin, I doubt I've seen many classes played at all in my campaign besides the core 4.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Emerikol, post: 6323641, member: 6698278"] But what percentage of the people would have to violently hate a mechanic to get them to offer another option that would take them all of half an hour to write? They actually did change Second Wind to temp hit points. Then after the INTERNAL playtesters said they liked normal better they switched it back. So the surveys were complaining about Second Wind already that they felt motivated to try a different approach. The devs are likely just clueless when it comes to understanding the real issue. They've demonstrated on other issues like dissociative mechanics that they can take two out and put two in in the same motion. They just don't understand it fully. Any healing that is not of magical origin that results in a recovery rate faster than normal sleeping (which is either 1hp/day or maybe level/day for "liberals on the issue" like myself) is problematic. They actually got rid of the Warlord supposedly as a response to this feeling on hit points. Give me a clean fighter with at least an option for my playstyle and I'd be happy if there were twenty warlord variants. I would ban them all in my game but the overall game is not lacking even a simple core 4 fighter and rogue with options for my approach. To be honest, I never need more than the core 4. Other than Paladin, I doubt I've seen many classes played at all in my campaign besides the core 4. [/QUOTE]

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