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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 6324258" data-attributes="member: 6698278">If you read my post I was distinctly referring to people who both liked a simple fighter and martial healing.  I was not saying that no one at all would like martial healing so your analogy doesn't hold up.There are hundreds of things I like and dislike.  I am not disillusioned as to the fact that many in some cases do not share my opinion.  I do not though for a second believe that martial healing is widely popular.  So coincidentally that is something I am against that I'm not alone on.I was not trying to be hyperbolic or at least not in any significant way.  I do not believe that mechanical choices are completely unconnected.  While maybe ten is dramatic I do believe the overlap is very small.There may be a lot of moderates out there playing.  They don't decide what their group is playing.  The passionate people decide and they tag along.  I can guarantee that not a single member of my group would have bought a single 4e book if I had not introduced them to the game.  If I had said we were play 3e instead we would have.  The same will likely hold true for 5e.I guess my response to this is in my previous response.I can see that your personal preferences run counter to mine, shocker.</blockquote>