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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4895957" data-attributes="member: 71571">Here's the WHOLE rule again.&nbsp; With the parts -you- missed highlighted.&nbsp; Read it.&nbsp; Then read it again. It applies to this -very- situation.&nbsp; The feature says you score a critical hit, great.&nbsp; Then that means that Precision then kicks in.&nbsp; You've got general, now let's get specific.Precision: Some class features and powers allow you to score a critical hit when you roll numbers other than 20 (only a natural 20 is an automatic hit).Precision is a rule designed to interract with features and powers that allow you to roll a critical hit with other than 20.&nbsp; Yes?This feature allows you to roll a critical hit with other than 20.&nbsp; Yes?&nbsp; Does it say, explicitly, that Precision does not apply?&nbsp; Does it say, explicitly, or even implicitly, that you automaticly hit as well as score a crit?&nbsp; No?&nbsp; Does the ability say 'You automatically hit?'&nbsp; No?Precision applies to this feature.Simple as that.&nbsp; If it didn't, then it wouldn't apply to any other crit-altering mechanic either.&nbsp; And that means the Precision rule does nothing.Seriously.&nbsp; The rule is -right there-.&nbsp; It is -unambiguous.-&nbsp; The rule applies -directly- to the situation.According to the rule specificly regarding altered critical hit possibilities, only a natural 20 is an automatic hit. Please explain where the feature suggests otherwise.&nbsp; Scoring a critical hit is already covered by Precision, -explicitly-.&nbsp; Show me where the words 'automatic hit' come into play here, other than it only happening with 20s.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4895957, member: 71571"] Here's the WHOLE rule again. With the parts -you- missed highlighted. Read it. Then read it again. It applies to this -very- situation. The feature says you score a critical hit, great. Then that means that Precision then kicks in. You've got general, now let's get specific. Precision: [B]Some class features and powers allow you to score a critical hit when you roll numbers other than 20[/B] [U](only a natural 20 is an automatic hit).[/u] Precision is a rule designed to interract with features and powers that allow you to roll a critical hit with other than 20. Yes? This feature allows you to roll a critical hit with other than 20. Yes? Does it say, explicitly, that Precision does not apply? Does it say, explicitly, or even implicitly, that you automaticly hit as well as score a crit? No? Does the ability say 'You automatically hit?' No? Precision applies to this feature. Simple as that. If it didn't, then it wouldn't apply to any other crit-altering mechanic either. And that means the Precision rule does nothing. Seriously. The rule is -right there-. It is -unambiguous.- The rule applies -directly- to the situation. According to the rule specificly regarding altered critical hit possibilities, [B]only a natural 20 is an automatic hit.[/B] Please explain where the feature suggests otherwise. Scoring a critical hit is already covered by Precision, -explicitly-. Show me where the words 'automatic hit' come into play here, other than it only happening with 20s. [/QUOTE]

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