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<blockquote data-quote="BobTheNob" data-source="post: 4896392" data-attributes="member: 82425"><p>Nifft does have a point. Precision is the general rule in this scenario (its the rule of thumb designed to cover numerous scenarios), Holy Ador is specific (it covers one scenario for one PP). Not the other way around.</p><p> </p><p>If you want to argue that specific trumps general, then Holy Ador crits on matching rolls regardless of hit or miss chance.</p><p> </p><p>But put the "it has this word" and the "look at page XXX sub paragraph YYY" into your back pocket and think about this.</p><p> </p><p>Its a defining PP ability and should be potent and defining. Unfortunately, if you have to hit to get this extra crit chance...its piss weak. If you allow to crit even when its a miss its <strong>nearly</strong> ass good as other PP crit boosts and you get an almost insignificant boost to to hit.</p><p> </p><p>If you want to peak into the minds of the designers and figure out what they intended (before Sally the typist made a mistake leading us to this rules lawyer debate) crunch the numbers and compare.</p><p> </p><p>Without new evidence, it has to be RAW and RAI that hit or miss the crit applies on a double roll.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BobTheNob, post: 4896392, member: 82425"] Nifft does have a point. Precision is the general rule in this scenario (its the rule of thumb designed to cover numerous scenarios), Holy Ador is specific (it covers one scenario for one PP). Not the other way around. If you want to argue that specific trumps general, then Holy Ador crits on matching rolls regardless of hit or miss chance. But put the "it has this word" and the "look at page XXX sub paragraph YYY" into your back pocket and think about this. Its a defining PP ability and should be potent and defining. Unfortunately, if you have to hit to get this extra crit chance...its piss weak. If you allow to crit even when its a miss its [B]nearly[/B] ass good as other PP crit boosts and you get an almost insignificant boost to to hit. If you want to peak into the minds of the designers and figure out what they intended (before Sally the typist made a mistake leading us to this rules lawyer debate) crunch the numbers and compare. Without new evidence, it has to be RAW and RAI that hit or miss the crit applies on a double roll. [/QUOTE]
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