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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4909435" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>No it doesn't. Polearm Gamble is an opportunity action. Nothing forced movement can do will trigger it. So this is a terrible example. Neither does teleportation. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A feat that grants you an opportunity attack must follow all the rules for opportunity attacks. Holy Ardor allows you to score a critical hit. It permits it. It says 'You are allowed to do this action.' Precision -blatantly- applies. </p><p></p><p>Are you saying that a feat that grants you an opportunity attack ignores feats that modify opportunity attacks? Of course not. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But you can only hit with a natural 20. The rules are -very- explicit about that, and Holy Ardor does NOT say you hit.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, by my logic, Precision kicks in and the hit doesn't happen, and therefore the critical hit is never registered, so the feat can't take effect.</p><p></p><p>There are other examples of this in the rules. Dwarves can prevent pushes. Said pushes do not need to say 'You may push 4 squares' for the Dwarf ability to apply. The Dwarf bonus simply -applies- to all instances where you are pushed a certain number of squares.</p><p></p><p>You cannot choose to ignore rules without an explicit exception. There is no exception to the critical hit rules spelt out in Holy Ardor. If it implied you automaticly hit, it would say so, using plain language. It would say, 'you hit, and that hit scores a critical hit' or what have you. But it does not actually say, nor claim, you -automaticly hit- nor does it imply that a hit is automatic.</p><p></p><p>It merely states a condition where you can score critical hits, and assumes you follow the rules for critical hits, as does every other ability in the game that does not state an exception.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4909435, member: 71571"] No it doesn't. Polearm Gamble is an opportunity action. Nothing forced movement can do will trigger it. So this is a terrible example. Neither does teleportation. A feat that grants you an opportunity attack must follow all the rules for opportunity attacks. Holy Ardor allows you to score a critical hit. It permits it. It says 'You are allowed to do this action.' Precision -blatantly- applies. Are you saying that a feat that grants you an opportunity attack ignores feats that modify opportunity attacks? Of course not. But you can only hit with a natural 20. The rules are -very- explicit about that, and Holy Ardor does NOT say you hit. No, by my logic, Precision kicks in and the hit doesn't happen, and therefore the critical hit is never registered, so the feat can't take effect. There are other examples of this in the rules. Dwarves can prevent pushes. Said pushes do not need to say 'You may push 4 squares' for the Dwarf ability to apply. The Dwarf bonus simply -applies- to all instances where you are pushed a certain number of squares. You cannot choose to ignore rules without an explicit exception. There is no exception to the critical hit rules spelt out in Holy Ardor. If it implied you automaticly hit, it would say so, using plain language. It would say, 'you hit, and that hit scores a critical hit' or what have you. But it does not actually say, nor claim, you -automaticly hit- nor does it imply that a hit is automatic. It merely states a condition where you can score critical hits, and assumes you follow the rules for critical hits, as does every other ability in the game that does not state an exception. [/QUOTE]
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