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<blockquote data-quote="CovertOps" data-source="post: 4913339" data-attributes="member: 65152"><p>Without page 276 and 278 in the PHB a critical hit is nothing and means nothing. How did you know to apply max damage without reading the critical hit rules you so firmly want to ignore? A critical hit is first defined in the Hit rules on p276 which then sends you to p278 for more detailed info. For a power to state "you score a critical" and you to take that to mean "do max damage requires you to skip those rules in their totality and if you do that your "critical hit" is now undefined and means nothing. That is absurd in the extreme.</p><p></p><p>1. Holy Ardor: "You score a critical hit". (what is a critical hit? -> see p276 PHB to find out)</p><p>2. Oh wait...we have some rules here about our critical hit....let's find out if they apply...oh wait they do apply because the power I'm using doesn't say that they don't. (exception based design)</p><p></p><p>You seem intent on ignoring everything about the hit and critical hit rules and going straight to the sub-section and dealing damage. All those rules you are conveniently skipping define what a critical hit IS as well as what is required to have one. You can't pick what rules to use and which ones to ignore. They all apply unless specifically stated otherwise (again general vs. specific). The max damage clause comes with some riders, requirements, and other rules....if you want one you get them all whether you want them or not. Since Precision is simply a reminder of the normal hit rules you now have to go back and find out if your "crit" even hit the target and presto....a missing crit with no damage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CovertOps, post: 4913339, member: 65152"] Without page 276 and 278 in the PHB a critical hit is nothing and means nothing. How did you know to apply max damage without reading the critical hit rules you so firmly want to ignore? A critical hit is first defined in the Hit rules on p276 which then sends you to p278 for more detailed info. For a power to state "you score a critical" and you to take that to mean "do max damage requires you to skip those rules in their totality and if you do that your "critical hit" is now undefined and means nothing. That is absurd in the extreme. 1. Holy Ardor: "You score a critical hit". (what is a critical hit? -> see p276 PHB to find out) 2. Oh wait...we have some rules here about our critical hit....let's find out if they apply...oh wait they do apply because the power I'm using doesn't say that they don't. (exception based design) You seem intent on ignoring everything about the hit and critical hit rules and going straight to the sub-section and dealing damage. All those rules you are conveniently skipping define what a critical hit IS as well as what is required to have one. You can't pick what rules to use and which ones to ignore. They all apply unless specifically stated otherwise (again general vs. specific). The max damage clause comes with some riders, requirements, and other rules....if you want one you get them all whether you want them or not. Since Precision is simply a reminder of the normal hit rules you now have to go back and find out if your "crit" even hit the target and presto....a missing crit with no damage. [/QUOTE]
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