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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4920220" data-attributes="member: 71571">If it doesn't work as I describe, 'When you score a critical hit' abilities can't work -at all-.See, in that case, critical hits don't allow you to do extra effects from feats and such, because critical hit maximum damage does not -tell- you to apply extra feat effects.  And the ability allowing the critical hit doesn't tell you to apply extra feat effects.Which means that those feat effects can't happen, because of the lack of the permissive form.Which means, as well, you can't have maximum damage on critical hits, because even tho you score a critical hit, the power -itself- doesn't say you -can- deal so and so damage, but says you -do- deal so and so damage, thusly you can deal no more, and no less, than is stated in the power.Oh wait.  The consequences of my standpoint?Well cause the rule tells you to cancel out the critical hit because you don't actually hit, then you don't get the feat bonuses, of course.  Same as how feats that trigger on a push don't trigger if you don't actually push the enemy.Figured that was obvious tho.That's your consequence.</blockquote>