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<blockquote data-quote="CovertOps" data-source="post: 4920971" data-attributes="member: 65152">Precision is a reminder of the rules for &quot;Hit&quot; found on p276.&nbsp; But even more important than that is this:What I said was &quot;...in this case Precision doesn't even matter&quot; which is not the same as it doesn't apply.&nbsp; If you roll doubles in step 3 and that roll is not good enough to beat the target's defenses (step 4) then you &quot;Miss&quot;.&nbsp; Clear as day.&nbsp; No ifs, ands, or buts.&nbsp; Therefore there will never be a case where you are granted a critical by Holy Ardor on an attack roll that misses and Precision will therefore never apply because you never met the requirement of &quot;Hit&quot; to even get to Precision.If on the other hand if you roll high enough on your doubles roll to hit the targets defense then you've already qualified for &quot;Hit&quot; and Precision doesn't matter because you met it's requirements.So the bottom line is that no matter what you roll using Holy Ardor, Precision doesn't matter.On a separate note I'm not convinced the rules even need Precision.&nbsp; Given this rules text that I quoted above from p269 it just seems redundant because you'll never be applying damage on a roll that &quot;Missed&quot;.&nbsp; Based on that I'd have to adjust my comment above to say that Precision is really a reminder of this &quot;Making an Attack&quot; rules sequence.Regardless of what it is or isn't, if you follow these rules and apply them - in order - you will never have a case where Precision does anything.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CovertOps, post: 4920971, member: 65152"] Precision is a reminder of the rules for "Hit" found on p276. But even more important than that is this: What I said was "[b]...in this case Precision doesn't even matter[/b]" which is not the same as it doesn't apply. If you roll doubles in step 3 and that roll is not good enough to beat the target's defenses (step 4) then you "Miss". Clear as day. No ifs, ands, or buts. Therefore there will [b]never[/b] be a case where you are granted a critical by Holy Ardor on an attack roll that misses and Precision will therefore never apply because you never met the requirement of "Hit" to even get to Precision. If on the other hand if you roll high enough on your doubles roll to hit the targets defense then you've already qualified for "Hit" and Precision doesn't matter because you met it's requirements. So the bottom line is that no matter what you roll using Holy Ardor, Precision doesn't matter. On a separate note I'm not convinced the rules even need Precision. Given this rules text that I quoted above from p269 it just seems redundant because you'll never be applying damage on a roll that "Missed". Based on that I'd have to adjust my comment above to say that Precision is really a reminder of this "Making an Attack" rules sequence. Regardless of what it is or isn't, if you follow these rules and apply them - in order - you will never have a case where Precision does anything. [/QUOTE]

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