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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CovertOps" data-source="post: 4921912" data-attributes="member: 65152">I guess maybe I missed the mark on the question I asked.  What I am trying to get at is how would you word the critical hit rules such that they apply to ALL critical hits without having to mention specific exceptional mechanics such as a critical being granted by Holy Ardor on doubles AND any other new mechanic WotC might come up with over the course of the game.Our position has pretty much been that the critical hit rules apply to ALL critical hits and that either you got a natural 20 (one path) or you got any other result that allows a critical (Precision).  Either way the "Hit" rules (Precision) still apply (mostly just a reminder).So my question again is how would you want Precision reworded so it simply applies to ANY critical where you rolled something other than 20 without mentioning specific mechanics of how you got the critical?  A general rule that does what it is supposed to do...cover all cases by being generic enough in it's wording where you need some really specific wording to circumvent it.Or alternatively some reasoning why you think doubles IS different enough (without granting itself a specific exemption) to warrant being immune to Precision.I'd be willing to hear from you N8Ball on this too.  I am genuine in my interest about what you think makes doubles so special that Precision does not apply (considering that OoE - the ability that allows you to roll the two dice - gives a method to resolve the two rolls into a single roll which could then qualify for Precision).Edit: Keeping in mind that my position is that this is all resolved by following the ordered rules for making an attack on p269 and that permissive language just simply doesn't matter ("can" - Dagger Master IMO could be worded "you score a critical" and would be no different than it is now, or if it was worded this way would you argue that Precision doesn't apply to it either based on the lack of the permissive?).  I'm more interested in how you think Precision would need to be reworded, but if you prefer to do the other what I'd like to know is why doubles is so different than rolling say 18-19 for Dagger Master when both grant you a critical.</blockquote>

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