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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4925587" data-attributes="member: 71571">I present Precision.  Now present counter-proof stating it does not work.I'm -well- aware of where the burden of proof is on this.  LOL WUTSo, rules priority goes from feats, class abilities, and then rules eh?So, if you have a rule that says you do maximum damage on a coup de grace, the fact the power says you deal a specific die roll of damage means that you can't?If you have a power that pushes a creature, it overcomes the rule that you cannot move through obstacles?That's not how it works in this game, and don't pretend it does.  If you have a situation X, then if there are rules that say what you do with situation X, you -use those rules.-So, if you charge, even tho a melee basic attack is a part of that action, does that make charge unplayable because melee basic attack says it's a Standard Action?These examples are rediculous, but they are -exactly- the sort of rules interraction you claim exists here.The game does not work this way, never has, and never will.Um no.  Those rules are exceptions to -how- you can get critical hits.  If you do a straight replacement of Natural 20 with those other results, you get to a point where if the roll isn't high enough to hit, instead of a successful critical, you just get a hit.  However Precision then tells you that doesn't happen either.  Changing the -range- of the crit, or the circumstances a crit happens overrides the Natural 20 part.  It doesn't override what you do with it, it does NOT override the entirety of the critical hit rules.That's great.  Except my book doesn't say 'Exalted' on the cover.  And so, no, it is NOT like that at all, because that means the game does not work.  And the game -does- work, which proves that it cannot be as you claim.And if I were running Exalted, and you -tried- to make that argument at the table, I'd say you're being a rules-shister (a corrupt rules-lawyer) and if you continued with this nonsense, you'd not be invited back to my table.</blockquote>

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