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<blockquote data-quote="Kraydak" data-source="post: 4925601" data-attributes="member: 12306"><p>In the (faulty) case that critical hits are a type of hit, I already have. Because each and every ability that expands your means of getting critical hits is its own, unique, snowflake, they all take rules priority over Precision.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not entirely sure what you are asking here, but I think the answer is:</p><p>Correct, albeit largely irrelevant. If you have a feat that says: on a coup de grace, do an extra d10 damage, than you have to roll that d10. The normal weapon damage does get maxed as per normal. See High Crit weapons.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Different subsystems.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Until the rules contradict eachother, yes. We *have* a contradiction though.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Both are normal rules, Charge makes a call to MBA, so Charge takes priority. No problems here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I despair at my writing skills, as the examples don't begin to be the sort of rules interaction I have claimed exist.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Expanding the range or circumstances of crits doesn't ever interact with the Natural 20 part in the first place, *because you didn't roll a freaking natural 20* (unless you want to claim that a given attack can double critical... which might be an interesting discussion in and of itself).</p><p></p><p>If you have Heavy Blade Mastery, and roll a 19 that misses, AND critical hits are (again, falsely) a type of hit, then we have:</p><p>Precision: "you don't hit."</p><p>Heavy Blade Mastery: "I crit, and therefore hit, and because I am a more unique snowflake, I get to beat up Precision and take its lunch money."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>*sigh*</p><p>I was just trying to bring up a game where specific-beats-general (basically the default case everywhere) is explicitly contradicted. Exalted runs on all rule contradictions being handled by specific-beats-general EXCEPT for IOvUF (immovable object vs unstoppable force) where, by the explicit admission of the game designers, any perfect defense trumps any attack even if that attack calls out that defense by name.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kraydak, post: 4925601, member: 12306"] In the (faulty) case that critical hits are a type of hit, I already have. Because each and every ability that expands your means of getting critical hits is its own, unique, snowflake, they all take rules priority over Precision. I'm not entirely sure what you are asking here, but I think the answer is: Correct, albeit largely irrelevant. If you have a feat that says: on a coup de grace, do an extra d10 damage, than you have to roll that d10. The normal weapon damage does get maxed as per normal. See High Crit weapons. Different subsystems. Until the rules contradict eachother, yes. We *have* a contradiction though. Both are normal rules, Charge makes a call to MBA, so Charge takes priority. No problems here. I despair at my writing skills, as the examples don't begin to be the sort of rules interaction I have claimed exist. Expanding the range or circumstances of crits doesn't ever interact with the Natural 20 part in the first place, *because you didn't roll a freaking natural 20* (unless you want to claim that a given attack can double critical... which might be an interesting discussion in and of itself). If you have Heavy Blade Mastery, and roll a 19 that misses, AND critical hits are (again, falsely) a type of hit, then we have: Precision: "you don't hit." Heavy Blade Mastery: "I crit, and therefore hit, and because I am a more unique snowflake, I get to beat up Precision and take its lunch money." *sigh* I was just trying to bring up a game where specific-beats-general (basically the default case everywhere) is explicitly contradicted. Exalted runs on all rule contradictions being handled by specific-beats-general EXCEPT for IOvUF (immovable object vs unstoppable force) where, by the explicit admission of the game designers, any perfect defense trumps any attack even if that attack calls out that defense by name. [/QUOTE]
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